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I thought of that. There are already several utilities out there that IBM has renamed to appease those who prefer the IBM commands. Granted, in general I do prefer the IBM naming convention. However, if a command is used across multiple operating systems, then I'll use the standard. Examples abound in the TCP/IP according to IBM world NETSTAT = WRKTCPSTS NSLOOKUP = STRDNSQRY PING = VFYTCPCNN But if this is all it takes to make a customer happy... By the way, are DSPF/EDTF a pair of those commonly found commands? Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/22/2004 02:07 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Record size limitation in RPG - MQ Series Create a command called DSPUSRSPC. Have it associated with a CL of the same name. One liner in the CL - DSPF. On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:59:33 -0500, rob@xxxxxxxxx said: > I see your point. > > However, what would you expect a 'iseries' based command to give you, to > work with a user space, that EDTF/DSPF doesn't? If it isn't that much > more capable, or easier to use, then I just as soon they put the money > into something else. > > If IBM created a command, DSPUSRSPC, and it looked pretty much like DSPF, > would you be happy? > > Rob Berendt > -- > Group Dekko Services, LLC > Dept 01.073 > PO Box 2000 > Dock 108 > 6928N 400E > Kendallville, IN 46755 > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > "jt" <jt@xxxxxx> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 03/22/2004 10:37 AM > Please respond to > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To > "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > cc > > Subject > RE: Record size limitation in RPG - MQ Series > > > > > > > Iirc, I had a tool to do this and it took relatively "no time" to > develop. > IF so, and IF I had access to it, I wouldn't release it to the public > because the code was crappy, however. > > But what I wonder is how's come IBM hasn't come up with such-a tool all > these years?!? > > Lemme answer that rhetorical question, Rob. Because pseudo-dweebs prefer > EDTF and the Kings of the DCRS such as yourself prefer a Windoze-like > interface as opposed to CmdLine tools. That's why. > > And it's also because there are, according to Mr. Zollar, there are > 3,000,000 Java programmers and 300,000 RPG programmers. So, > over-applying > the 80/20 rule, the 300,000 RPGers get essentially zero development > dollars, > and they're just expected to eat dung like they have been for the past > decade or two. > > Is there something here you don't comprehend, Rob? > > > | -----Original Message----- > | [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx > > | Earlier on in the thread it was stated that there was no utility to > | display the contents of a user space. For example, if you wanted to > see > | if your program was updating it properly. Thus, in that case, DSPF is > a > | valid utility. I suppose you could do a DMPOBJ, but I think that is > even > | more 'dweeby'. > | > | Rob Berendt > > | "jt" <jt@xxxxxx> > | Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > | 03/21/2004 12:53 PM > > | Didn't know that, Colin. > | > | But WHY would anybody WANT to do this?? (I used EDTF.. like once or > twice > | was enuf, iirc.) I mean, as opposed to STRSEU QGPL/STRCODE... > | > | *Nix-like attitude won out again, apparently. Never surprises me, but > | then, > | never ceases to amaze me either. > | > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- michaelr_41@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. 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