Re: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with Java/Websphere/JSP **

["Adam Lang" <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What "other technologies" are you referrign to?  For the most part, I agree
with you about any server side scripting language.  Any major application
you should probably try to avoid it.  For the main reason of segmenting
business code from presentation code.

BUT server side scripting does have its place and usefulness as well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Helgren" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: ** POLL - How many of you are playing with Java/Websphere/JSP
**


> Primary because of (to quote you), the "mixing HTML with Java".  It
> complicates the maintenance and readability of the Java code. I am by no
> means an MVC "purist", but as a relative newcomer to Java and HTML (only
> about 18 months) I find the "mixing" more confusing than helpful.  I use
> Freemarker as a templating tool (it is excellent and can be found at
> freemarker.org) with Java servlets primarily because as an "old school"
RPG
> programmer it closely mimics the Screen DDS / RPG model I am familiar
with.
> I create a screen with "markers" where the data goes (like SDA) .  I
create
> a program the processes the screen and retrieves the data from the DB
(like
> writing RPG). I run the program.  Simple.  It is just a familiar paradigm
> for me.  Better yet, since my HTML forms look uncannily like 5250 screens
> (read: UGLY), I can take my prototype HTML give it to someone who actually
> knows what they are doing with HTML and they return the HTML page back
> looking "pretty".  They leave the field markers in place and Voila! I have
a
> nice looking HTML app.
>
> I guess it is a preference...like avoiding RPG IV because I haven't taken
> the time to learn it well enough to use it daily (yet!).  But from what I
> hear about "traditional" JSP's, they are quietly taking a back seat to
other
> technologies anyway.