RE: ILE vs CLI. was V5R3 -- MIDRANGE-L

Observations: 
 - Mono Project is currently not at a Release 1.0 level.
 - Lot more required to be prime time on any platform. Slated for
Release 1.0 by end 2003 early 2004. 
 - Patents have been applied for by MS for core components.
 - Sun supports ASP via buy from ChilliSoft for ASP code.
 - The Mono C# Compiler is released under the terms of the GNU GPL
(Currently being challenged by SCO).
 - The Mono runtime libraries are under the GNU Library GPL.
 - And the Mono class libraries are released under the terms of the MIT
X11 license.
 - Java Mono interoperability is possible via script interface.

If Mono were available on iSeries, question is what would be the level
of interset/uptake/adoption? 
This begs the further enquiry; how many iSeries shops currently rely
on/use this technology now elswhere?

I am interested in others views on this!

Regards,

Bob Moore

Arterial Software
http://www.arterialsoftware.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Richter
> Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 1:26 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: ILE vs CLI. was V5R3
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jon Paris
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:20 AM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: V5R3
> 
> 
> >> >> This is not rocket science, IBM has to either get on board with 
> >> >> CLI (
> >>search the web for ECMA CLI ) or improve ILE.
> 
> >I don't disagree about the importance of CLI.  I just don't believe 
> >that it will be the deciding factor in the live/die decision.
> 
> okay. What about what it indicates about the level of 
> commitment to the operating system/programming language 
> market?  MS is spending billions on its languages and 
> operating systems. Is IBM willing to match that spending to 
> remain competitive?
> 
> >From the MS site it would appear that the source code for a port is 
> >available.  Since the code supplied will run on BSD how  
> hard can it be 
> >to port to Linux/AIX on the iSeries.  For that matter how hard is a 
> >native port?
> 
> If Mono ( an open source CLI/C# project ) was running on the 
> Linux side of the iSeries, the benefits would not be 
> available where they are needed, in the RPG and Java appl 
> development. It is ILE C++ and Java that have to be made CLI 
> compliant.
> 
> >In other words - what has ILE got to do with it.
> 
> ILE is not just the iSeries's version of CLI, it is all of 
> IBM's.  With ILE trailing CLI feature wise, with MS still 
> working to improve CLI while IBM is not working to improve 
> ILE, you really have to wonder what is going on.
> 
> -Steve
> 
> 
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