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Ahh! Joe, that was very well put.  

As corporations continue to "optimize profitability" in ever more creative
ways, the employee seems to becomes incidental.  This guy or that gal, who
cares as long as the task is done....

At the end of the day, we're all just trying to feed our families and hold
on to what we have.  All we get for our efforts is FUD....

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pluta [mailto:joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:12 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: How to find out the main memory capacity


> From: Smith, Dave
> 
> Get off your high horse folks.  "These guys" have just as much right
to
> post to this service as you do.  They are doing nothing illegal and
are
> trying to make a living like you and I.  You may not agree with what
our
> government has done allowing the 'offsourcing guys' to take our jobs
but
> why not focus your energy on our government to right the wrongs
instead of
> belittling the people who post valid questions to this site.

My personal feeling notwithstanding, I think it's a strong statement
about how badly this outsourcing issue is affecting us as a community
when many of us now use a "is this training my replacement" filter to
answer newbie questions for fear we are contributing to our own
unemployment.

It is sad that this happens in this forum, traditionally a shining light
of equality and opportunity (even if that occasionally meant the
opportunity to be pummeled equally by all <grin>).  Sad, and an
indication of how truly abandoned by the corporations we all feel.

I submit we're still a lot more open than other industries.  Try to find
a mailing list on bioengineering.  Or perfume design.  Or microchip
fabrication.  Chances are that nobody is sharing information in those
fields.  It is forums like this and the Open Source movement that have
brought so many of us together and given so many around the world such
wonderful opportunities and are ironically now the first to suffer when
those opportunities are turned against us.

Anywho, this can get religious real quick, so I'll step out after this.
Dave, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just asking that you keep a
relatively open mind.  It's not a Pollyanna world anymore, and some of
the people on this list are in real danger of losing their jobs, quite
possibly to people who may have used these lists for basic education.

Joe

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