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Tom, Let's say that this PTF affects one of those system tasks at the bottom of WRKACTJOB like QSYSARB. Granted, you could load a program, onto the system, that this calls at anytime. However if the program is already loaded up into memory then it won't be used until the next time the job/task starts. The "action" on this one might be to stop/start QSYSARB. Perhaps the only way to do that is to IPL. QSYSARB was just used as an example. Then again, maybe the developer just didn't want to document the steps necessary to make it active. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin qsrvbas@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Tom Liotta) Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/08/2003 05:22 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc: Fax to: Subject: RE: Immediate PTF -- What's the point? midrange-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > 7. Re: Immediate PTF -- What's the point? (rob) > >While a ptf may be applied immediately often there will be some action >required. Sometimes the action is drastic enough that you might as well >IPL. Sample actions may include: <snip> When there's actually an "action" to perform, I have no problem. But in this specific case, the _only_ action needed was to IPL. I just can't see where this is in any significant way different from a PTF that's applied as delayed but before the IPL. I'd have preferred this PTF to be designated as 'Delayed' right at the start. >Technically, it makes IBM look good if they can reduce the number of PTF's >that require an IPL to apply. I'm feeling as if this is _THE_ answer. When I remember the relief back at around R1.2 and R2.1 when cumes and pre-reqs started to come together (back before "V"ersion had much meaning), I always feel nervous when things seem to be slipping backwards. Tom Liotta -- -- Tom Liotta The PowerTech Group, Inc. 19426 68th Avenue South Kent, WA 98032 Phone 253-872-7788 x313 Fax 253-872-7904 http://www.powertechgroup.com __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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