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Glad to see that Vern only found a few with this wording. While a ptf may be applied immediately often there will be some action required. Sometimes the action is drastic enough that you might as well IPL. Sample actions may include: - Ending all users on all twinaxial ports. - Bringing the system down into a restricted state. - Ending all TCP/IP. There may be good reasons to do this. Much as often you have to kick all users out of an application when you update a screen program. Technically, it makes IBM look good if they can reduce the number of PTF's that require an IPL to apply. However, with the gyrations you have to go through to make some of these ptf's active it makes this number game about as meaningful as (editted for sensitivity). Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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