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Thanks Vern

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: RUNSQLSTM source member comments (Vern Hamberg)
   2. *** ADMIN: Scheduled downtime 1/4/03 (David Gibbs)
   3. RE: *** ADMIN: website improvements (gcrane@johansonmfg.com)
   4. SQL: set delete (Reeve Fritchman)
   5. Re: SQL: set delete (Vern Hamberg)
   6. Re: RUNSQLSTM source member comments (Richard Theis)
   7. RE: using FMTSRC (Andy Nolen-Parkhouse)
   8. Network Neighborhood Problem (Rick Klopfer)
   9. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (MWalter@hanoverwire.com)
  10. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (Rick Klopfer)
  11. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (MWalter@hanoverwire.com)
  12. RE: RUNSQLSTM source member comments (Robin Coles)
  13. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (Paul Nelson)
  14. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (Rick Klopfer)
  15. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (Paul Nelson)
  16. Re: Network Neighborhood Problem (Rick Klopfer)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:50:36 -0600
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com>
Subject: Re: RUNSQLSTM source member comments
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Gerald

Comments are specified with two hyphens - everything after "--" to the end
of the line is a comment.

HTH

Vern

At 07:30 PM 1/1/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Is there a way to place comment statements in an SQL source member so that
>when it is run via the RUNSQLSTM command, it won't generate errors?
>
>I use a source type of 'txt' for my sql statments. They aren't very
complex,
>usually just for quick fixes, but I'd like to be able to comment within the
>source member.
>
>Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year !!


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 20:23:11 -0600
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: David Gibbs <david@midrange.com>
Subject: *** ADMIN: Scheduled downtime 1/4/03
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Folks:

I'm scheduling some downtime for this coming weekend to upgrade the Mailman
software to the latest version 2.1.

It's got a bunch of new features that I'm chomping at the bit to implement.

I'll outline some of the changes you will notice once it's implemented.

david
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Message: 3
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: gcrane@johansonmfg.com
Subject: RE: *** ADMIN: website improvements
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:37:00 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

[ Converted text/html to text/plain ]

Yes, I agree with you.   I tried it out again today....would not work for
help
because depends on who is on-line.  But is is good to be able to contact
other
people to chat.  Happy New Year David and thanks for all your work to
support
the 400 community.  Oh, by the way, I am reading Lou Gershner's book "who
says
elephants can't dance"....can't remember who recommended it, but it is worth
reading.

Gail Crane
Johanson Manufacturing Corp.
phone 973-334-2676
gcrane@johansonmfg.com


David Gibbs <david@midrange.com>
Sent by: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
01/01/2003 07:54 AM CST
Please respond to midrange-l
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
cc:
bcc:
Subject: RE: *** ADMIN: website improvements

At 07:46 AM 1/1/2003, you wrote:
>I think the chat is great and easier than digging thru stack of mail.
Not for our purposes, I think ... chat is more for a social gathering.   If
you're trying to get help, or give help, email is still a better medium.
david
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Message: 4
From: "Reeve Fritchman" <Reeve@LTL400.com>
To: "Midrange-tech-L@Midrange. Com" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: SQL: set delete
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:17:21 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I=92m executing this SQL statement within my RPG program:

Delete from TOP001 where TOSTAT =3D =91RT=92

TOP001 contains =93follow-up=94 records; they=92re deleted every morning an=
d new
ones are added based on some application logic.  When the program runs, it=
=92s
possible that a user might have a record locked while doing their tracing
and follow-up; a locked record tanks the program with an SQL0913 error.  Is
there a way I can force the set delete to complete in spite of record lock
errors (even though such a =93capability=94 is actually undesirable)?

The application doesn=92t care if all the record(s) don=92t get deleted; th=
ey=92ll
be status=92ed as closed and deleted the next day.  If there=92s no easy wa=
y to
make the set delete work, I=92ll do something else and delete on a
record-by-record basis (which will allow me to skip locked records).

Thanks,
Reeve
www.ltl400.com <http://www.ltl400.com/>

--


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:51:42 -0600
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com>
Subject: Re: SQL: set delete
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Reeve

Is this embedded SQL? You could use some error handling to start the DELETE
after the locked record. The WHENEVER statement lets you continue with the
next statement, or go to some label.

HTH

Vern

At 12:17 AM 1/2/03 -0500, you wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>I'm executing this SQL statement within my RPG program:
>
>Delete from TOP001 where TOSTAT = 'RT'
>
>TOP001 contains "follow-up" records; they're deleted every morning and new
>ones are added based on some application logic.  When the program runs,
it's
>possible that a user might have a record locked while doing their tracing
>and follow-up; a locked record tanks the program with an SQL0913 error.  Is
>there a way I can force the set delete to complete in spite of record lock
>errors (even though such a "capability" is actually undesirable)?
>
>The application doesn't care if all the record(s) don't get deleted;
they'll
>be status'ed as closed and deleted the next day.  If there's no easy way to
>make the set delete work, I'll do something else and delete on a
>record-by-record basis (which will allow me to skip locked records).
>
>Thanks,
>Reeve
>www.ltl400.com <http://www.ltl400.com/>


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Message: 6
Subject: Re: RUNSQLSTM source member comments
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: "Richard Theis" <theis_richard@fr.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:56:47 +0100
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com


2 dashes in front of the comment line
HTH

Richard THEIS
iSeries Education, France



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Message: 7
From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: RE: using FMTSRC
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:10:15 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Murali,

The FMTDTA command has not changed much in quite a while.  Below is a
link to the manual.  Even though the site is the InfoCenter for V5R1, the
document has not been updated since 1994.  What you are looking for is
the Sort User's Guide and Reference, SC09-1826.

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r1/ic2924/books/sc09-1826-00.html

You can also get a PDF version of the manual at:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/online/v4r1eng.htm

Regards,
Andy Nolen-Parkhouse

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]
> On Behalf Of N, Muralidhar
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:09 AM
> To: 'rpg400-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: using FMTSRC
>
> Iam new to this flat file concept...can any body tell me how to write
> sort/select  conditions...Iam sorting data (iam nt using opnqryf)by
> using
> FMTDTA and how to write sort conditions in the flat file   for that?how
> do i
> use this in CL pgm?
>
> Regards,
> Murali




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 08:40:41 -0500
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rklopfer@daytonprogress.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Network Neighborhood Problem
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to
consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to
properly handle MIME multipart messages.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
We are at v5r2.

Net Server will not start...
Anyone know anything about this?

Here is error:


 Message ID . . . . . . :   CPIB683       Severity . . . . . . . :   40

 Message type . . . . . :   Information

 Date sent  . . . . . . :   01/02/03      Time sent  . . . . . . :
08:23:54


 Message . . . . :   AS/400 Support for Windows Network Neighborhood
(AS/400
   NetServer) was unable to start.

Rick--

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Message: 9
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: MWalter@hanoverwire.com
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:48:53 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com


do you have TCP started. As well as the Host Servers.


Thanks,

Mark


Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com
http://www.hanoverwire.com
717.637.3795 Ext.3040
/"\
\ /
 X
/ \



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Message: 10
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rixone@ameritech.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:57:52 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

TCP is started.

Which host servers need started?


----- Original Message -----
From: <MWalter@hanoverwire.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem


>
> do you have TCP started. As well as the Host Servers.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
> Mark Walter
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
> mwalter@hanoverwire.com
> http://www.hanoverwire.com
> 717.637.3795 Ext.3040
> /"\
> \ /
>  X
> / \
>
>
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Message: 11
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
From: MWalter@hanoverwire.com
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:00:55 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com


I start them all (STRHOSTSVR).  Maybe that's bad.


Thanks,

Mark


Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com
http://www.hanoverwire.com
717.637.3795 Ext.3040
/"\
\ /
 X
/ \



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Message: 12
From: "Robin Coles" <robin@ringbase.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: RE: RUNSQLSTM source member comments
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:04:46 -0000
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

The CL syntax: /* comment here  */ also works for me (V5R1).

Cheers
Rob


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Message: 13
From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:37:05 -0600
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Do you have PTF MF29721?

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
630-327-8665 Cell
708-923-7354 Home
pnelson@arbsol.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rklopfer@daytonprogress.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM
Subject: Network Neighborhood Problem


> This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to
> consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to
> properly handle MIME multipart messages.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> We are at v5r2.
>
> Net Server will not start...
> Anyone know anything about this?
>
> Here is error:
>
>
>  Message ID . . . . . . :   CPIB683       Severity . . . . . . . :   40
>
>  Message type . . . . . :   Information
>
>  Date sent  . . . . . . :   01/02/03      Time sent  . . . . . . :
> 08:23:54
>
>
>  Message . . . . :   AS/400 Support for Windows Network Neighborhood
> (AS/400
>    NetServer) was unable to start.
>
> Rick--
> _______________________________________________
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list
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Message: 14
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rixone@ameritech.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:45:20 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Paul,

NO --- do not have MF29721

Why?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem


> Do you have PTF MF29721?
>
> Paul Nelson
> Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> 630-327-8665 Cell
> 708-923-7354 Home
> pnelson@arbsol.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Klopfer" <rklopfer@daytonprogress.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM
> Subject: Network Neighborhood Problem
>
>
> > This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to
> > consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to
> > properly handle MIME multipart messages.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > We are at v5r2.
> >
> > Net Server will not start...
> > Anyone know anything about this?
> >
> > Here is error:
> >
> >
> >  Message ID . . . . . . :   CPIB683       Severity . . . . . . . :   40
> >
> >  Message type . . . . . :   Information
> >
> >  Date sent  . . . . . . :   01/02/03      Time sent  . . . . . . :
> > 08:23:54
> >
> >
> >  Message . . . . :   AS/400 Support for Windows Network Neighborhood
> > (AS/400
> >    NetServer) was unable to start.
> >
> > Rick--
> > _______________________________________________
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> list
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Message: 15
From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:57:48 -0600
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

A client was having problems not only with Netserver but also with CA file
downloads. That PTF resolved both issues.

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
630-327-8665 Cell
708-923-7354 Home
pnelson@arbsol.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rixone@ameritech.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem


> Paul,
>
> NO --- do not have MF29721
>
> Why?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
>
>
> > Do you have PTF MF29721?
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> > 630-327-8665 Cell
> > 708-923-7354 Home
> > pnelson@arbsol.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Klopfer" <rklopfer@daytonprogress.com>
> > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM
> > Subject: Network Neighborhood Problem
> >
> >
> > > This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to
> > > consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to
> > > properly handle MIME multipart messages.
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > We are at v5r2.
> > >
> > > Net Server will not start...
> > > Anyone know anything about this?
> > >
> > > Here is error:
> > >
> > >
> > >  Message ID . . . . . . :   CPIB683       Severity . . . . . . . :
40
> > >
> > >  Message type . . . . . :   Information
> > >
> > >  Date sent  . . . . . . :   01/02/03      Time sent  . . . . . . :
> > > 08:23:54
> > >
> > >
> > >  Message . . . . :   AS/400 Support for Windows Network Neighborhood
> > > (AS/400
> > >    NetServer) was unable to start.
> > >
> > > Rick--
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing
> > list
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Message: 16
From: "Rick Klopfer" <rixone@ameritech.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:00:38 -0500
Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com

Paul,
Okay----thanks for the tip...will check into it.
Rick--
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem


> A client was having problems not only with Netserver but also with CA file
> downloads. That PTF resolved both issues.
>
> Paul Nelson
> Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> 630-327-8665 Cell
> 708-923-7354 Home
> pnelson@arbsol.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Klopfer" <rixone@ameritech.net>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
>
>
> > Paul,
> >
> > NO --- do not have MF29721
> >
> > Why?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Nelson" <pnelson@arbsol.com>
> > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Network Neighborhood Problem
> >
> >
> > > Do you have PTF MF29721?
> > >
> > > Paul Nelson
> > > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> > > 630-327-8665 Cell
> > > 708-923-7354 Home
> > > pnelson@arbsol.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rick Klopfer" <rklopfer@daytonprogress.com>
> > > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM
> > > Subject: Network Neighborhood Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want
to
> > > > consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how
to
> > > > properly handle MIME multipart messages.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > We are at v5r2.
> > > >
> > > > Net Server will not start...
> > > > Anyone know anything about this?
> > > >
> > > > Here is error:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Message ID . . . . . . :   CPIB683       Severity . . . . . . . :
> 40
> > > >
> > > >  Message type . . . . . :   Information
> > > >
> > > >  Date sent  . . . . . . :   01/02/03      Time sent  . . . . . . :
> > > > 08:23:54
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Message . . . . :   AS/400 Support for Windows Network Neighborhood
> > > > (AS/400
> > > >    NetServer) was unable to start.
> > > >
> > > > Rick--
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L)
mailing
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