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Unfortunately, I'm not at IBM anymore.

I'll forward this exchange to Anne and let's see what happens!

-----Original Message-----
From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:22 PM
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: v5r1 license key


>From: Metz, Zak [mailto:Zak_Metz@G1.com]
>I've been working on it since IBM Rochester hired me out of high school 11
years ago.

Just sneak a license code out of the big blue buildings! <G>

Seriously though, have you spoken with Anne Lucas? I know I'm putting words
in her mouth, but I can't believe something couldn't be worked out in
exchange for you being a reference site for iSeries web sites. After all you
have the hardware so we're talking about the cost of pressing a CD. Hell,
you even have the CD, all we're talking about is the cost of generating a
license key.

-Walden



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Walden H Leverich III
President
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11
(208) 692-3308 eFax
WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
http://www.TechSoftInc.com

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)



-----Original Message-----
From: Metz, Zak [mailto:Zak_Metz@G1.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 15:17
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: v5r1 license key


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I'm not new to the 400, in fact, I've been working on it since IBM Rochester
hired me out of high school 11 years ago.

The main reason I bought a "home" AS/400 is to run my website
(www.distortion.us). I consider it a hobby because: it consumes huge amounts
of my time, I make no money off of it, and I never expect to make money off
of it, I just do it because I enjoy it and it gives me a chance to try out
things I don't have the opportunity to try at work (in particular, Net.Data
and SQL).

I bought the system (a 510-2143) because it was cheap ($1500 on eBay + $1000
in recent hardware upgrades to max it out), I know it inside and out, and I
believe that it is the right system for me to run a website on. What I
didn't realize is that IBM would ask me to pay huge amounts of money to
legally run this hobby system.

I'd like to pay IBM a fair amount for the software, but I cannot pay the
unreasonably huge amounts they demand regardless of how the system is being
used, or how old/slow the system is. I'd even be happy to pay for an old
release if the price was right, but IBM withdraws instead of discounting.

My girlfriend has an idea for an actual business we could run on it, and if
that ever comes to fruition, I will pay IBM for use of the software.
Meanwhile, I can live with myself, and with scratching every sixty days.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lou Schmaus [mailto:lschmaus@link400.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:33 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: v5r1 license key


Zak,

Are you a college student, trying to learn the iSeries, or just
independently wealthy with a lot of leisure time on your hands?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic(OK, maybe just a little sarcastic ;-) ), but
you don't generally find someone who bought/leased an iSeries "just for
fun". The AS/400-iSeries line was designed as a machine to run business
software, or as a development platform to produce business software. I'm
sure nearly everyone on this list is either an employee in the MIS
department of a company that uses the iSeries to run all or part of their
business, or developers who sell/support business software for the iSeries.
You're not gonna find a lot of "hobbyists" here. I'm not even sure what a
iSeries hobbyist would do with the machine.

Anyway, back to your original question, can you keep reloading the O/S every
70 days with a scratch install? The answer is, I believe, yes. I'm sure Al
or some of the other experts here who know much more than me can give you a
definitive answer, but most likely it would work. As for the ethical
questions of running non-licensed software, and where a "hobbyist" would get
the CD's to run this non-licensed software, that I think we should take to
the Non-tech list.


Lou Schmaus
MIS Director
Apparel Distribution, Inc.
lou@appareld.com


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Behalf Of Metz, Zak
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:35 PM
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: v5r1 license key


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Yes, I am. Yes. None. No, I won't.

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