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>I just made my first cable a couple weeks ago,

Why? Patch cables are cheap enough these days that I long ago gave up making
my cables. Can you get it right, sure, but is it worth the $1/cable savings?
Doubt it.

>I can't imagine trying to skip a couple by using only 4.

Actually it's easier. You have only 1/2 the wires to deal with. (But as I
said above, I wouldn't do it)

>I guess you can use flat phone cable...

Only if you want 10Mb 1/2 duplex and even then you'll get a lot of errors on
the line. The twists are necessary to reduce/eliminate RF interference,
especially at the higher speeds.

-Walden


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-----Original Message-----
From: Vernon Hamberg [mailto:vhamberg@attbi.com]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 08:13
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Ethernet Line Tuning


I just made my first cable a couple weeks ago, so I'm no expert (I'm a new
spurt <g>). Considering how it's messy enough getting all 8 wires in the
right places of an RJ-45 connector, I can't imagine trying to skip a couple
by using only 4. It just seems easier to use them all with a CAT5 cable. I
guess you can use flat phone cable, to save money, but it's probably not
worth it, IMO.

At 08:07 AM 8/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >From: Chris Bipes
>
> >Really.  I learn something new every day.   Do you have a link available
to
> >read what pairs are actually needed for 100 Full?  Or post the specs
> >here.
>
>The posted link described the order of the wires, but I didn't see the
>description of which pairs are actually used.  In case you are curious,
>it's pins 1, 2, 3, and 6 (basically the orang and green pairs.)  Some
>cables are made with only those four wires connected.  I personally use
>all 8 because you never know when you may need that cable for a dumb
>terminal (pins 4 and 5 on our baluns) or something else.

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