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IMHO IBM ought to give away the whole ADT toolset (PDM,SEU,DFU..etc) AND
Query, though I don't suppose they ever will; IBM seem dead-set to get the
AS/400 away from the staid image of 5250 and into GUI; yes, GUI is
fashionable, and I have yet to meet anyone who actually prefers a 5250
screen, but I don't want to pay extra for the 'privilege' of being able to
write a few CL programs to help automate operations, customise my signon
screen or run adhoc queries over my data.  Bundling ADT into WDS was a
shrewd move by IBM, if anything will put a nail in its coffin, that will.

I don't suppose I'll be heeded by IBM but ... how about providing a PTF to
enable earlier versions of ADT to run *COMPATIBLE with v5 - so, there will
be no enhancements, but IBM, PLEASE do not ditch ADT the way you have dumped
OV/400.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Winchester Terry [mailto:terry.winchester@raymondcorp.com]
Sent: 24 July 2002 12:27
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: (no subject)


Jeff

True, its a poor editor, but he did say "Give Away"  ;-)

Terry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Bull [mailto:Jeff.Bull@itm-group.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:09 AM
> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: (no subject)
>
>
> I can't say that I've seen EDTF before; I just tried it and
> edited a comment
> into a CL-source & saved it ok. I guess it could be useful to
> make minor
> code changes, but I wouldn't want to develop new programs in
> it - no cmd
> prompting.
>
> Jeff Bull
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Winchester Terry [mailto:terry.winchester@raymondcorp.com]
> Sent: 24 July 2002 12:05
> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: (no subject)
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Did you look to see if EDTF resides in QSYS?
> I thought this was a *nix port and not related
> to PDM.
>
> Terry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Nelson [mailto:p_nelson-br@pop.inil.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:58 AM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: (no subject)
> >
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Wouldn't it be nice if IBM threw in a CL creation and editing
> > tool (more
> > than CRTCLPGM) as part of the operating system? There is
> supposedly a
> > project going on to introduce a new and improved version of
> > CL. Come on,
> > IBM, please GIVE AWAY an editing tool. Pretty please? :-))
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > Braxton-Reed, Inc.
> > 630-327-8665 Cell
> > 708-923-7354 Home
> > pnelson@braxton-reed.com
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