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This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Joe, I think you are absolutely on the money here! This move actually started in the 1980's with a focus on "user centric" computing on the mainframes (also on the midrange machines -- remember the Nureal network and AI tools that used to ship on the AS/400, also the user graphics tools BG.. something). Then the PC's came along and turned the world upside down. How many users in your companies think they can develop systems or at least run systems projects today? In IT we saw the demise of the professional Systems Analyst and an atempt to have Programmer's fill the role by calling them Programmer/analyst. User's began running the show instead of depending on professional analysts trained in business process analysis. The vendors have fed the User's desire to do it themselves. I know of several companies where IT systems staff reports directly to the user departments. Talk about an integration nightmare? How do sales and accounting exchange data? The "IT" departments in these huge companies take care of networks and iron! They are rewarded for being big and complex! Bob Cancilla Republic Indemnity Company of America (818)382-1023
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