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Well said, with the LPAR you can't go wrong with the OS400! Dare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@ppg.com> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers? > I think the KEY here is interoperability, something like LPAR of Linux on the /400. > The user could still maintain Windoze if they chose to do so. > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dare @ Work [mailto:oludare@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:00 AM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? > > > I think a portable OS400 can give Windoze a ride for its money. Not to > mention the stability of OS400 amongst many of its superior features. Don't > quote me but we could break the monopoly of Microsoft on OS. > > Dare > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr Syd Nicholson" <sydnic@ccs400.com> > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Put me on the purchase list too. > > > > A valuable asset to any sales team. Mobile software demonstrations at > > any customer workplace. Opportunities to show OS/400 capababilities on > > any potial customer site. Oportunites to get iSeries systems into the > > smallest of potential customers, most of which perceive Big Blue as > > being too remote, complicated, and expensive. > > > > A valuable asset to any contractor doing development for different > > clients. Mobile software development on a real iSeries!! I look forward > > to it. > > > > Syd Nicholson > > Castlehill Computer Services Ltd. > > > > > > Shields, Ken wrote: > > > > >Put me on the purchase list... > > >Ken > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Robin Sapiro (Rogers) [mailto:robin.sapiro@rogers.com] > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:31 PM > > >To: midrange-l@midrange.com > > >Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? > > > > > > > > >David, > > > > > >How about this as a survey subject. > > > > > >Would you buy a laptop iSeries. > > >In what price range. > > >What would you do with it > > > > > >Maybe IBM would like some overwhelming feedback on this subject (OK so I > am > > >dreaming - but still an interesting survey question) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Jeff Bull" <Jeff.Bull@ITM-group.co.uk> > > >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:47 AM > > >Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers? > > > > > > > > >>... I never mentioned Intel processors, I used the term 'laptop', > perhaps > > >> > > >I > > > > > >>could have used the term 'portable'. > > >> > > >>At a previous employer the sales/marketing team 'lugged' a model 150 > > >> > > >around > > > > > >>the world (!!!) to demonstrate the business applications they had for > > >> > > >sale. > > > > > >>The prospects liked to see applications running native, not over a comms > > >>link. The poor little 150 was bashed to bits many times by the airline > > >>baggage handlers, even though it was reasonably protected in a custom > made > > >>case. > > >> > > >>A portable AS/400 is what is needed. The electronic guts of a 150/170 > > >> > > >style > > > > > >>system could surely be repackaged, perhaps further miniaturised, and > made > > >>truly portable, e.g. carried as airline hand-baggage. I bet the > component > > >>technology already exists, the casing and marketing ... well IBM ? > > >> > > >>Jeff Bull > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com] > > >>Sent: 09 April 2002 16:25 > > >>To: midrange-l@midrange.com > > >>Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers? > > >> > > >> > > >>Nope. Doubt it would work. Part of AS/400 (and Mac for that point too) > > >>robustness is the fact of a limited set of hardware to support. > > >> > > >>If you have IBM developing OS/400 for Intel AND the millions of hardware > > >>possible, it will tank. > > >> > > >>Adam Lang > > >>Systems Engineer > > >>Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company > > >>http://www.rutgersinsurance.com > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com> > > >>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:20 AM > > >>Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers? > > >> > > >> > > >>>Buck, > > >>> > > >>>I would differentiate between an entry level server and a personal > > >>>version of OS/400. One of the reasons that IBM gives for not pushing > > >>>iSeries solutions in their consulting business is that they have > > >>>difficulty recruiting recent college graduates with OS/400 experience. > > >>>One of the reasons many managers would not consider an iSeries is that > > >>>they've never used one. If a very-low-cost personal version of the > > >>>system was available for an Intel platform, perhaps with a client limit > > >>>of one, then college students could use the system and gain the > > >>>familiarity that none of them have. > > >>> > > >>>I can think of no other way to make OS/400 ubiquitous, given the > > >>>circumstances of the marketplace. > > >>> > > >>>Andy Nolen-Parkhouse > > >>> > > >>>>John Carr wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS OS/400 and AIX > > >>>>>and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries ( +/- a few $) ?? > > >>>>> > > >>>>I briefly spoke with Dr Soltis at the recent Northeast IBM Conference. > > >>>> > > >>>I > > >>> > > >>>>asked him to put OS/400 on a laptop to distribute to universities. He > > >>>>told > > >>>>me that he floated the idea and nobody was interested, including > > >>>> > > >>>COMMON. > > >>> > > >>>>Apparently, if IBM can't find demand, they're disinclined to fire up a > > >>>>production line to create dumpster-filler. > > >>>> > > >>>>This may be an opportunity for us to tell Rochester that we're > > >>>> > > >>>interested > > >>> > > >>>>in > > >>>>a low-cost OS/400. > > >>>> --buck > > >>>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > >>> > > >>list > > >> > > >>>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > >>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > >>>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > >>>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > >>>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > >>>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > >> > > >list > > > > > >>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > >>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > >>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > >>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > >>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > >> > > >> > > >>________________________________________________________________________ > > >>This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. 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