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I have (as stated previously) from #2 on of Q38 and I am quite sure that they even published exactly what type of Micro-Fiche viewer you should buy to view some of the info with(function ref. Data Area's etc). Ya, I still remember the QMagic column too Charly :-) And also my Fav. Robin C.'s articles on "Structured Programming" John Carr -------------------- Ken Kelley and ASC developed their product from scratch using the S/38 documentation that was publicly available (but not widely known). They figured out the hard parts that weren't documented. The Data Areas manual was a regular public IBM publication, and the pub number was published in the very first issue of Q/38. I am certain about this. I have _all_ the issues of Q/38. Thanks, Bob! Charly Jones 253 265-6244 Gig Harbor Washington
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