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  • Subject: Re: last OS400 ver for M36?
  • From: "Jerome Draper" <jdraper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:05:46 -0700

Title: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?
You can run other AS400 apps simultaneously with M36 apps with no problem as my customer does.
 
Jerry

Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's, Windows, Linux, Sun, and AS/400
Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and Others .....
http://www.trilosoft.com - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax - jdraper@trilosoft.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bale, Dan
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?

Agreed, Rob, but in the scenario which prompted this thread, I did not get the feeling that this M36 customer was going to purchasing V5R1 software any time soon.  Since they're M36, doesn't that preclude *any* native AS/400 environment?  If so, they couldn't add any new software if they wanted to.  Well, I digress, but is there any S/36 software packages out there available for sale?

Any shop still running M36 long ago decided that the environment was sufficient for them then, and still is now.  It is in my (shallow???) opinion that these shops have no need to upgrade the OS.  Everything works fine as is.  If the system is up-to-date on PTFs, there should be no need to worry about IBM dropping support for the release.

Or have I missed something here?

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-------------------------- Original Message --------------------------

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   rob@dekko.com [SMTP:rob@dekko.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, July 26, 2001 11:17 AM
    To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
    Subject:        RE: last OS400 ver for M36?


    Unless of course you accept software from any vendor running V5R1.

    One example is compile a screen with HLPARA(*RCD) on V5R1 and try to get
    that to run on a machine running anything earlier than V4R5.  And V4R5 will
    only work if you have ptf's SF65906 and SF65976.
    Not counting this bug, sooner or later you'll want to take advantage of a
    newer feature.
    I heard an interesting story this week.  Seems that a software vendor
    polled their customer base, at a user group meeting, as to whether or not
    they would be upset if they stopped supporting anything prior to V4R3.
    There were ZERO objections.  They were stunned.  They pulled some of them
    aside to confirm.  Some confessed to being on an earlier version but were
    praying for the day when that vendor would stop supporting the old version
    so they would have an excuse for management to upgrade.

    Rob Berendt

    ==================
    A smart person learns from their mistakes,
    but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.


                                                                                                                            

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    I guess I just look at our systems - a development box stuck at V3R2 and
    several other boxes at V3R7 - and these things just keep going and going
    and going.  These will be replaced SOON(Yeah !!!), but for those companies
    who insist on staying with a product that IBM chooses to abandon, I guess I
    don't see any reason to get upset about being stuck on an old release of
    OS/400.  In my experience, by the time IBM drops support for a given
    release, that release is stable enough to run without problems for a long,
    long time.


    Dan Bale
    IT - AS/400
    Handleman Company
    248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
    D.Bale@Handleman.com
      Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
      (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)


    -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------


         -----Original Message-----
         From:   Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
         Sent:   Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:41 PM
         To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
         Subject:        Re: last OS400 ver for M36?


         That's the plan for now.

         Jerry


         Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
         Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's, Windows,
         Linux, Sun, and AS/400
         Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and Others .....
         <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax -
         jdraper@trilosoft.com <mailto:jdraper@trilosoft.com>




              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Bale, Dan <mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com>
              To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <mailto:MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
              Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:41 PM
              Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?





              >what the heck are they supposed to do?


              Um, why not just stay at V4R4?


              Dan Bale
              IT - AS/400
              Handleman Company
              248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
              D.Bale@Handleman.com <mailto:D.Bale@Handleman.com>
                Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
                (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)


              -------------------------- Original Message
              --------------------------


                      -----Original Message-----
              From:   Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
              Sent:   Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:04 PM
              To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
              Subject:        Re: last OS400 ver for M36?


                      Thanks.


                      How many AS/S36 shops are there and what the heck are
              they supposed to do?
              They could migrate to S36E to get to V4R5 but then S36E sunsets.
              So then
              what?


                      Believe me.  These shops are not going to rewrite to
              native AS400 next week.
              We are talking simple businesses that work fine as is.


                      Joe Frank, senior architect of SSP, told me that you can
              teach a person to
              run a S36 in one day and they can.  You can teach a person to run
              an AS400
              in a week and they still can't do it.


                      :-)





                      Jerry





                      Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
              Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's,
              Windows, Linux,
              Sun, and AS/400
              Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and Others
              .....
              <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax -
              jdraper@trilosoft.com


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