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We replace one system from a MS Access system to a 5250 system. The person who set up the Access system set up a lousy database design. No referential integrity, lookups or whatnot. No standard code tables. Reporting became difficult to impossible. This fellow, while a nice guy, with years and years of 400 experience, should have done better. Rob Berendt ================== Remember the Cole! "John Taylor" <john.taylor@telusp To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> lanet.net> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: No 5250-based applications owner-midrange-l@mi drange.com 04/26/01 09:36 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L Jim, I have those same users!!! :) I've NEVER heard a single one ask me to convert a GUI screen to 5250, but I've heard plenty of them ask if we can take their application off the "stupid old system". Not that I agree with their assessment of my beloved 400, but that's the way it is. Having said that, I also haven't heard a single one ask me to replace their GUI with a browser. John Taylor Canada > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:44 PM > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: No 5250-based applications > > > Actually my 5250 users have complained for years about field > exit, keyboard > locking, no mouse, and numeric fields for entry. They think it is > a "stupid, > old > system" that wont accept either 020101 or 02/01/01 or 02/01/2001 or > 2/1/01 or 2/1/1 or 2/1/2001 in a date field. They look at me and say, > "can't the 400 do this?" I've been trying to make all entry fields alpha, > and > do the editing for numbers or dates in the code. I'm just completing my > first "data entry" cgi app, and so far the users like it. This is search, > select, > and order entry, with a user doing perhaps a hundred or more a day. It > took several screens in 5250, and several in html. Was able to give them > some new functions. To make sure screens always come from the server > and not from cache, there is a timestamp in the url, making every url > unique. > Cache-no did not always work (ie5.1) I can get more data on the screen > in html, and if the data length is too long, it wraps easily. > For the VB comments, since I'm using a good tool (WebSmart), this is > quick development. No client but a standard browser. The in-house users > have asked if I can put their apps up the same way! > Web printing is a problem (sort of). Exploder print button does > not seem to > format > page breaks well. They dislike the wait of creating .pdf, but if that is > what it > takes, they will. > jim > > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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