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  • Subject: Re: Okay to change QAUTOVRT to zero?
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:20:09 -0500

GLAD I/we could help Bryan !!!

Chuck

Bryan Burns wrote:

> Thanks Chuck and Jim, due to your advice I have set QAUTOVRT    to zero.
>
> (By the way Chuck, we have  four vd* devd: two type 3196, and two type 3197.  
>Till you pointed it out, I was not aware what these were for).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Chuck Lewis [SMTP:clewis@iquest.net]
> Sent:   Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:25 PM
> To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:        Re: Okay to change QAUTOVRT to zero?
> Importance:     High
>
> ONE caveat to this...
>
> At my last job (2 1/2 years ago and running on V3R7) using Client Access to 
>connect
> PC's, with QAUTOVRT set to 0, the system would STILL create these devices !!!
>
> So do a test and make SURE you are OK !
>
> I just did that on our box (V4R1) connecting via TCP/IP and running Synapse 
>Netwolf
> and it does NOT work (i.e. no device created and CPF87D7 (Cannot automatically
> select virtual device.) message logged to QSYSOPR.
>
> Chuck
>
> Jim Langston wrote:
>
> > QAUTOVRT and security.
> >
> > It should be fine to change your QAUTOVRT to 0, since any needed devices
> > by this time should already be created.  They do not disappear after being
> > created but hang around until you delete them manually, they are reused.
> >
> > So what's the big deal then?
> >
> > Say you have some hacker trying to access your system.  He gets to your
> > system either through dial in or telnet or similar methods.  He tries to
> > log into your system by guessing user names and passwords.  Now, if you
> > have your security set up correctly, when the system disables a user
> > profile it will also disable the device.  With QAUTOVRT set to 0 (do not
> > create) once the hacker reaches the last usable device he will no longer
> > be able to get a sign on.  So you thwarted his attempts.
> >
> > But, with QAUTOVRT set to 1 (auto create) the hacker can try as often as
> > he likes, because even though the virtual devices are becoming disabled, he
> > just starts a new connection and a new one is created.
> >
> > The way to use QAUTOVRT with security in mind is to initially turn it on and
> > allow a number of devices to be created.  After enough auto devices get 
>created
> > you turn it off.  You now have enough virtual devices for everyone to get 
>onto
> > your system that needs too, but no more will be created when someone comes 
>along
> > and starts disabling them trying to hack into your system.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jim Langston
> >
> > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:47:49 EDT
> > From: MacWheel99@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: Okay to change QAUTOVRT to zero?
> >
> > There are a couple issues here.
> >
> > Someone made a security review & suggested something to improve security.
> > Bryan Burns asked what the implications of the adjustment might be.
> > Al Mac asked what impact this might have on AUTHORIZED DIAL IN.
> > Chuck Lewis implied that it might not interfere with ANY dial in.
> > Which means that the original security reviewer missed something ... if a
> > port or line is left open for the purpose of an AUTHORIZED dial in, or pass
> > thru, then an intruder might also use that access.
> > So what has been accomplished by adjusting QAUTOVRT from perspective of the
> > security goals?
> > Or am I off in left field ... QAUTOVRT is not FOR security of dial in, but
> > for security of LAN attachments?
> >
> > Alister William Macintyre
> > Computer Data Janitor etc. of BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 on 400 model 170 OS4 V4R3
> > (forerunner to IBM e-Server i-Series 400)  @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central
> > Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and
> > electrical sub-assemblies
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