Re[4]: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke -

     I'm not really saying I'm frustrated with COMMON, exactly. Common 
     *could* be a bit more affordable, but that's not the point. It's 
     mostly frustration at TPTB who dangle the "training budget" in 
     front of my nose as an incentive, only to use that money in other 
     ways. In 15 years in midrange, I've had EXACTLY 1 day (6-7 hours) 
     of training (in house no less) for a product I was already familiar 
     with (I did learn some things, though). Everything else I've ever 
     learned has been via manuals, books, Synon generated code (YUK! 
     That's where I first learned subfiles.... S36 to AS400 shop, no one 
     else had any idea how to do them), trial and error, and most 
     recently this list and online resources. 
     
     Don't misunderstand, I feel that the grunt work has paid off over 
     the years. I learn best from my own mistakes, and I've made plenty 
     over the years, but I can't help feeling that much of the grief and 
     confusion could have been reduced or avoided completely with a bit 
     of training and source materials. 
     
     Recap: Training *should* be a benefit, to myself and my employer. 
     It *should not* be the golden carrot that's continually just out of 
     reach. That's the frustration.
     
     eric.delong@pmsi-services.com


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Subject: Re: Re[2]: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke -
Author:  <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> at INET_WACO
Date:    9/6/00 4:20 PM


     
     
How in the world can you be frustrated with COMMON if you've never 
been????!!!????  That means you've never invested a dime's worth of money nor a 
dime's worth of time to see what you could get out of it.  As Bruce Collins 
stated in another message, you get out of it what you put into it.  Personally, 
I think you should be screaming, jumping up and down and hollering(that's an 
Ozark mountain phrase), if your "decision makers" won't send you for training. 
I've never understood how we are supposed to advance our abilities and skills 
without outside training.  People who make these decisions should have mean, 
nasty, ugly things done to them.  The benefits from COMMON are far too numerous 
to mention here and they are multiplied when you volunteer and really get to 
know the movers and shakers in our industry.  They are some of the most 
friendly, helpful people I've ever met.
     
Paul Fenstermacher
Bass Pro Shops
paulf@basspro.com
     
     
     
     


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