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Right beside my desk are roughly 36 manuals actually printed on paper. Well, actually 35, because one is sitting on my desk (System/36-Compatable RPG II User's Guide/Referance, SC-09-1162) which I was using to look up the finer points of the LOKUP command. I have read A lot of these manuals cover to cover, such as DDS reference, the 4 RPG manuals I have (2 for RPG II and 2 for RPG III), System Operations, all the 6 CL references, etc... When I have a problem, my first place to hit is usually the manual. There is no RPG IV, RPG ILE book here. When we first got the OS with RPG IV it came with a CD, softcopy. I finally got around to installing it on my PC, and it was horrible to use. Slow, tedious, not to mention the PC I was using was slow. I have since then installed it on the AS/400 and use it through the InfoSeeker, and it takes me forever to find anything, because it's just not like a book. A book, I can browse through, I can flip pages, I can hold one section open while looking at another, I can reread pages easily, and so on. These softcopy programs are horrible! I have to know what I'm looking for before I look for it (not always necessary with a book). I also have to know just what book it's in, or do a search that takes forever, then try to figure out from the snippets I can see on the screen if this is actually what I'm looking for. It can take me 30 minutes to an hour to find the piece of information I'm looking for in Softcopy, where I can find the same information in a manual in under 15, usually 10. No, I have not read the RPG IV manual through. When I find the time I will, I hit it only when I have too because it's just such a pain, and hard to read online, and takes up valuable resource, and they keep changing the docs, etc... Give me back my books! I need them! And if you want to tell me to RTFM, that's fine, tell me the URL to the book itself (not as400.ibm.com), and preferably to the chapter in question. I've tried finding books online, and half the time they ain't where they were last week! I've bookmarked books on line, to go back to a 404 error. Regards, Jim Langston +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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