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  • Subject: Re: MPTN/Anynet... on V4R1
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:47:04 +0000

MUCH food for thought Jim,

I GREATLY appreciate it !!

Chuck

Jim Langston wrote:

> That would probably do it, and is probably on par with
> the Perle equipment, but from some rag I was reading,
> IBM is selling all their networking hardware to Cisco.
>
> If you go the IBM route not only will you be paying way
> more than you should, but a few years from now you are
> going to have to get support from Cisco instead of IBM.
>
> Basically, there are myriad ways you can do this.  IBM,
> Perle, Motorola, Cisco, Micom are the ones I know off
> the top of my head that all basically do the same thing.
>
> Some better than others, some more flexible than others,
> some cheaper than others.
>
> What I had done was I got quotes for equipment to do
> SNA over frame relay from Perle, Cisco, Motorola and
> Micom and compared features .vs. price.
>
> Believe it or not, you can buy a solution for all your sites
> for $5000 that does everything, and then some (Motorola)
> or pay $10000+ for one site that does only what you need
> it to and is not expandable at all.  When Micom got over
> $12,000 for the box for my corporate headquarters that only
> did SNA and IP over frame relay I thanked them and hung
> up, I didn't even bother to find out how much it would cost for
> the equipment for my remote sites.
>
> This is a huge disparity between prices.  I don't know why.
> But it exists.
>
> What you need to do is find out from IBM how much this
> 2218 Nways® FRAD is, and what it can do.  Does it do
> IP?  IPX? (not that you would probably want to do IPX,
> only if you currently use it on your network).  Does it do
> SNA emulation on client and server sides to reduce
> bandwidth usage (such as Motorola does) or does it send
> all the SNA traffic over the network?  Will it do Dedicated
> (such as T1) instead of Frame Relay?  DSL?  If you have
> electronic phone systems, will it do voice over IP?
>
> You need to find out:
> 1. Everything thing you need to send over the Frame Relay
>     Wire and whether the equipment handles it.
> 2. Everything you may wish to send over the wire tomorrow.
>     Is the equipment going to be able to handle it, or are you
>     going to have to get a new device to upgrade, or replace
>     it a year from now?
> 3. Are you firm set on Frame Relay, or is it possible that a
>     few years from now when the next cheaper, faster and
>     better thing comes along are you going to want to switch?
>     If you do have the possibility of switching, will this equipment
>     be able to handle it?  Such as Motorlla, you swap a card
>     and it can Frame Relay, DSL, dedicated, or whatever the
>     latest and greatest is.  At a lot cheaper price than buying
>     new equipment.
> 4. How difficult is this thing to set up?  And how much is it going
>     to cost you to get it setup and installed?  And how hard is it
>     going to be to make any needed changes in the future?
> 5. How much does this thing cost, and is it worth it?
>
> I hope I gave you some good food for thought.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Langston
>
> Chuck Lewis wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jim,
> >
> > The more we talk here, the more things change :-)
> >
> > Hey, I was just on IBM's web site TRYING to find an ethernet nic for our 620
> > (still trying... grrrrr...) but did run across the "The IBM 2218 Nways® 
>Frame
> > Relay Access Device (FRAD)" that " interconnects devices and hosts across a 
>Frame
> > Relay or local area network (LAN). It channels SNA, SSC, asynchronous and
> > multiprotocol LAN traffic into a single Frame Relay PVC. The 2218 
>eliminates the
> > need for separate wide are network (WAN) links for legacy LAN traffic.
> >
> > Where would this fit in ? Any idea ?
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Chuck
>
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