RE: Skills shortage

["Allen, Mark" <ALLENMA1@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Timing on this was great guys.  One of my programmers just gave her notice
this afternoon!!!  Time to start looking again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Watkins [mailto:kevinw@hurtcompanies.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 4:02 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Skills shortage


What I have found is that it is not just what you pay... but what else you
surround that pay with.

----- Original Message -----
From: oludare <oludare@ix.netcom.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Skills shortage


Hey guys,

every company claims "we pay well" but their claim mostly is based on what
they
pay their current employees or what they pay other techy personnel or on the
budget provided by management.  You have to look at years of experience, how
many
industries (e.g. financial, manufacturing, retail), education of each
individual,
of cause real cost of living, and other areas (e.g. PC, NETWORKING) because
most
professionals today have background that exceeds the AS400.
FACE THE REALITY

John Bussert wrote:

> I travel across the country, and every area I go to has the same problem.
I
> would love to hire good permanent people that can grow with us and learn
new
> technologies (Java, internet, etc) but can't compete with contract firms
who
> charge $125 an hour.  And we pay well, but...
>
> john
>
> John Bussert
> jbussert@stecnet.com
> Swift Technologies, Inc.
> 847-289-8339
> 847-289-8939 fax
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Krys Theodore [mailto:ktheodore@marksbros.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:59 AM
> > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: Skills shortage
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is true.  I finally filled a position that I had open
> > for 4 months.
> >  And we pay well.  If a body exists, it has gone into
> > consulting to get the
> > biggest bucks while the Y2K panic exists.  In a couple of
> > years they are
> > going to be real surprised when they try to get a permanent
> > position and
> > find that we aren't going to pay them whatever they think they want.
> >
> > ----------
> > From:         Colin Williams[SMTP:Williamsc@technocrats.co.uk]
> > Reply To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Sent:         Thursday, May 13, 1999 5:36 AM
> > To:   'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject:      Skills shortage
> >
> > According to Mays issue of NEWS/400, theres an AS/400 skills
> > shortage in
> > the US, is this true?
> >
> > I only ask because there are many AS/400 / RPG 'ers in the UK
> > that can't
> > find jobs at the moment, so US companies should start looking overseas
> > matbe.
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