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I disagree with the perception that these people are all so busy. We've several people that work in IS an average of 40-42 hours a week. None, except me, would take the time to take the ATS course on ILE. However when we set up a class for them they ate it up and are using it. I think that many people are not self motivated. RBoucher@stanpac.com on 05/10/99 01:14:55 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet cc: Subject: RE: "RPG isn't cool" I'd like to just add one other situation in which people may not have learned RPG IV yet... they work in a shop where there is no time (currently) for luxuries such as learning. Some people may even have enough work that if they have free time outside of work... they need to be spending it on work. Given the Y2K situation I imagine there may be many such people in this position. -----Original Message----- From: Buck Calabro [mailto:mcalabro@commsoft.net] Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 8:59 AM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: RE: "RPG isn't cool" >eric wrote: >> You can't teach something that student's don't want to learn (or attend). >> "RPG isn't cool". >> > >I'd be the last person to try to argue against that. To >illustrate, compare CGI programming in RPG versus Perl. > >Now, let's assume that being "cool" is a desirable >quality in a programming language. If we were to try to >change RPG from an "uncool" language to a "cool" language, >is there a single easy thing we could do to improve the >language? RPG IV *is* cool - sadly, nobody uses it! You have no idea how many people rail against "switching" to "another language." Invariably, it's from people who fall into one or more of the following categories: 1. Never used RPG IV; have gut feeling that it is too hard to learn 2. Never used RPG IV; have heard rumours that it is too hard to learn. 3. Never used RPG IV; have fears that "old dogs" can't handle features like CALLP 4. Never used RPG IV; have poor self-esteem and thing they can't handle fancy new concepts. 5. Never used RPG IV; RPG II/III/400 works just fine, thank you. Is there another major programming market where the programmers cling so fiercely to a clearly inferior language (RPG 400) when they've already paid for it's replacement (RPG IV?) It's this attitude more than anything else that dooms "RPG" to it's status as "uncool." You want a single easy thing to improve the language? Officially announce the end of support for RPG 36, RPG III and RPG 400. RPG IV can already do everything that it's predecessors could do and so much more. Get people to use what they've already paid for Give away GOOD examples of source code - write a new manual that only has examples. Buck Calabro +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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