Re: Interactive Subsystem - Automatic Signon -- MIDRANGE-L

I'm not really sure that this is cheating.  IBM is pushing a product
called Jacada Innovator (I think).  As near as I can tell, this product
takes your DDS and generates a VB or Java program that runs on your PC.

Then, you run your RPG or COBOL code through a different part of the
product and it takes all of your display file READs and WRITEs and
EXFMTs and changes them to call their API which communicates with the
Jacada Server.

When you're done, there are no more display files and you can run your
jobs as batch jobs and use a server model to save a lot of money.  As I
recall, IBM touts this as one of the benefits of using Jacada as a
transition to a thin client.  

So, suppose you modify your application systems so that when a user
first signs on, it just submits a batch job and logs off the interactive
user.  The batch job starts and acquires the now logged off terminal and
runs just like today, except it's counted as a batch job on the server
model.

How is this different than the Jacada Innovator product except that it's
pretty easy to do yourself without buying a new product?

It seems to me that IBM set up the rules for the server models so that
they can retain a much higher price on the system models even though
they're basically the exact same machine as the servers.  If this isn't
cheating, why is it cheating to make the changes I've described so that
you can fall under the server definition rather than the system
definition and save yourself some money.

Gary

Rich Duzenbury wrote:
>
> I know you'd never cheat, I think we all do, but when you have it tested out 
>& working, could you let us know?
> 
> Regards,
> Rich
> 
> ============================================
> Rich Duzenbury
> http://rich.dyn.ml.org
> http://vpsolutions.com
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Larry D. Bolhuis
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 2:34 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: Interactive Subsystem - Automatic Signon
> >
> >
> > bvining@VNET.IBM.COM wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > The one thing I can think of to watch out for is that the system does
> > > consider the job to be batch (that is, not interactive)
> > <snip>
> >
> > hmmmm.  If the job is considered BATCH is this a way around the
> > interective session governor on
> > Server Systems?  Just launch a batch job that starts up a menu
> > system and acquires the terminal. You
> > can present your own signon if required.
> >
> > Not that I'd ever cheat in this manner....
> >
> > --
> > Larry Bolhuis         |
> > Arbor Solutions, Inc  | Two rules to success in life:
> > (616) 451-2500        | 1. Never tell people everything you know.
> > lbolhui@ibm.net       |
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