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My two cents: What Douglas is talking about is not totally the fault of developers. It is also the users. They get "Lazy" and do everything via the mouse. But many (not all) Windows apps can be run largely from the keyboard. The problem is that nobody tells the end user that when they see an underline on a menu item, they can press alt and that letter and it will bring the menu up. Of course, many developers are not very good in assuming the accelerator keys are unique on the panel. Just like the Y2K problem is not totally the fault of the programmers, neither is mouse inefficiencies. But yes, the programmers did help! Bob -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Handy [SMTP:dhandy@isgroup.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 1:32 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: GUI necessary? Don, >As for Quicken, yeah, it's good stuff...but, think of the keystrokes... I >want to put in the state code for Virginia... on a green screen I just >enter VA...on a GUI...it point, click, drag, click, scroll.......at least >5 functions for most states....:) Why is it that so many people think you have to use the mouse just because it is there? Just type VA like you would if it was text. If you know the code, it is no slower. The Enter key can be made to operate like a tab when desired (Quicken gives this option too). But this gets back to doing the interface right. I've seen some combo boxes implemented where the second keystroke repositions the list as if it is the first letter. So typing V takes you to Virginia (being the first state abbreviation beginning with a V), then the A throws you back to Alabama. This is not an inherent fault of GUI; it is poor design and usability testing on the part of the developer. I contend that anything a heads down data entry operator can do in text mode can still be done at least as fast in a *properly* designed GUI, provided the hardware can keep up. The main caveats here is that most Windoze apps are not well designed or include usability testing by keyboard users. Doug +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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