Re: Get Program Verifier into TurnOver

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I don't use Turnover, but in Aldon's A/CMS I have a command that will set my
library list to what A/CMS would use to compile my program.  Are you sure you
don't have similar functionality somewhere in Turnover?

Sam
>From: craigs@dekko.com
>Reply-To: code400-l@midrange.com
>To: code400-l@midrange.com
>Subject: Re: Get Program Verifier into TurnOver
>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:33:33 -0500
>
>Scott,
>I like the TurnOver compile feature because it automatically sets up my
>library list and I would like that same functionality in the verify through
>TurnOver. I shouldn't have said can't but instead said that it is not
>feasible to set up the library list any other way except through TurnOver
>(that is the problem). We have a complex environment here and I have
>counted over 66 application sets (library lists) that I choose from whether
>I am working on BPCS, EDI, global utilities, etc. Upgrading to BPCS V8, we
>would be adding probably 30 more temporarily for awhile. There are even
>more on top of these. Each library list has an average of 15 libraries.
>Furthermore, if an application set changes library lists, or facilities
>merge, we would have to update all of the macros on our PC to reflect the
>changes in TurnOver. That would mean maintaining library lists in two
>places (multiplied by the number of programmers that would have to change
>macros to reflect changes on their PC). In a simple environment, we could
>pull it off and it probably wouldn't be a big deal, but not in our complex
>environment.
>That is why I really want a program verify tab through TurnOver like the
>TurnOver -> Compile -> Prompt (or No prompt). It is really important that
>the library list gets set up automatically through TurnOver.
>
>Thanks,
>Craig
>
>*** Scott wrote:
>Craig,
>
>I don't understand your problem. I use CODE/400 and Turnover. The
>'normal' Verify Program works fine for me. If it is a library list issue
>in CODE/400, you could use one of the macros that went flying across the
>list a little while ago to set the library list from within CODE/400.
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>Scott P. Johnson
>Applications Development Team Coordinator
>Microcomputer Development Specialist
>IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 RPG Programmer
>Highsmith Inc.
>W5527 Hwy 106, PO BOX 800
>Fort Atkinson, WI 53538-0800
>TEL: 920-563-9571 FAX: 920-563-7395
>sjohnson@highsmith.com
>www.highsmith.com
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>I would really like to use the Program Verifier (Actions -> Verify program)
>but I can't because I am editing source in CODE/400 from TurnOver change
>management.
>I have wanted this functionality for many months but I don't think the
>SoftLanding's TurnOver people understand what the advantages of Program
>Verify are. I keep looking for this but nothing comes up. I sent a
>request to SoftLanding to have Verify capabilities in CODE/400 from
>TurnOver and they rejected it and said to use the *NOGEN on the compile to
>accomplish the same thing. Wrong. I probably should have marketed it
>better and mentioned the advantages of Verify but I didn't think I needed
>to. Some of this was probably my fault.
>When editing source from TurnOver, the TurnOver menu with options of
>"Compile -> Prompt" and "Compile -> No prompt" pop up. I have used this
>happily for most of my programming for a long time because it uses the
>library list set up by TurnOver. Why can't there be a TurnOver verify
>option like the compile? Is there anyone using CODE/400 and TurnOver that
>would like the Program Verify option? Can there be a solution (or a
>workaround) and can IBM work with SoftLanding again to get this resolved
>like they did with the compile? Stay tuned. I doubt SoftLanding would
>listen to just my concern but if everyone who wants this capability speaks
>out, maybe it could become a reality. I would think if IBM wants to market
>the Verify function, they would want to have it work with the TurnOver
>library list and would get on SoftLanding's case. I would be interested to
>know what IBM thinks of this functionality and other future change
>management software integrations.
>NOTE: I, in no way, wish to belittle IBM or SoftLanding in any way. I have
>been impressed with the high level of customer support and the speed at
>which my problems were resolved from IBM and SoftLanding.
>
>My opinion of advantages of using the Program Verify option (which I cannot
>use from TurnOver):
>I heard a long time ago that the main benefit of using the Program Verifier
>lies in the cache option. It appears that the two advantages of using the
>cache is that it really speeds up the verifier and you can verify
>disconnected from the AS/400. I was able to verifying a program that took
>18 seconds uncached in 1 second cached. Keep in mind that the first time
>doing the cache on a verify still takes the normal verify or compile time
>but after that, you are really flying.
>
>I would really like to hear anyone's input on this subject and anything you
>might know about the future of TurnOver with CODE/400.
>
>Thanks,
>Craig Strong
>
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