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Charles,

Thanks.  My initial response was "I don't think so."....

I have both the R3 intermediate and the ISRG Root X1 CA root certificate in my IBM i CA certs certificate store.  The dates are valid.  The certificates I get from Letsencrypt when I renew are the "bundle" which include the intermediate and the root.  The decoder I used to check the certs show that they have valid dates (the root took a while to validate).

But then, I decided to take a closer look at what LetsEncrypt was saying about the expiration.  The issue is that the ISRG Root X1 (CA Root in this case) was signed by *another* root, (DST Root CA X3) It's THAT root that expired.  LetEncrypt goes on to say "Oh, that won't be a problem because the ISRG Root X1 is trusted by most browsers"  Well, somewhere down the chain, there was no trust.  To further complicate matters, LE continues to issue certs that reference the ISRG Root X1 that is signed by DST Root CA X3. ARRRGH!  So I manually changed the ISRG Root X1 to the new one that is self signed, as most CA roots are, and "Bob's your uncle"...

Certificate chains always make my head hurt...In this case, I had imported the ISRG Root X1 that IS self-signed into the CA certificate store on IBM i.  It was the pem file with the "bad" certificate chain that was buggering the works.

Thanks for forcing me to challenge my own assumptions.

Pete Helgren
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On 10/1/2021 10:17 AM, Charles Wilt wrote:
Pete,

Any chance this is part of the problem?
https://www.zdnet.com/article/fortinet-shopify-others-report-issues-after-root-ca-certificate-from-lets-encrypt-expires/

Charles

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