Re: Hosting a Large Number of Node Apps on the IBM i

wrote:

Hi Henrik

I am not going to plough through your advert despite the answer being
"yes" in many cases - I suggest you just try it for yourself and make your
own decisions if you want to find out.

For me, the key point about using node is not to reinvent the wheel, but
to create applications that are truly portable. I want to be able to run
my stuff on an IBMi with a DB2 database, and on a (for example) Windows or
Unix platform with A N Other database without having to provide all sorts
of platform specific integration layers or workarounds. Java is an
option, but I find it a huge cumbersome PITA to work with. PHP is an
option, but I don't want to learn a new language and besides, I don't think
it will perform as well as node.

For the things I want to do with node, I couldn't care less about "68 year
old OPM programmers", or RPG or the majority of IBMi programmers for that
matter. If there is a separate forum for IBMi programmers to discuss node
then I would happily switch to it.

I want to create an app on my PC and test it, and then deploy it to an
IBMi server and see it running without any pain at all. With the exception
of DB2 access, I am currently able to achieve that.......apart from the
fact that IBM seem to have made a complete mess of the latest release.

Cheers
Kevin


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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik
Rützou
Sent: 15 October 2015 10:40
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] Hosting a Large Number of Node Apps on the IBM i

Kevin

no you can't in SAILS at least not on most legacy tables e.g. how does
SAILS API handle numeric date fields conversion between JSON datafields in
its interface or just date fields in general between DB format definition
and JSON?

Does SAILS API include a metadata section in the JSON result set?

Does SAILS API support different output formats in the result set such as
XML, JSON, XLS, CSV, PDF etc.?

Does SAILS API has exit points for customermized code such as generating
complementary JSON nodes and advanced validation and (call to) business
logic?

And if so, does SAILS API maintain that binding when the REST/CRUD service
is regenerated?

Does SAILS API and node.js support an 68 year old OPM RPG programmer with
limited or no skills in OO javascript and JSON?

And no, you don't get a feature rich UI in a REST/CRUD service because
then it is a monolithic program and not a generic reuseable REST/CRUD
service ;-)

But my point is also that there may be tools on IBM I ILE that generates
code that typical will run Native under Apache or Icebreak or what ever. So
why use a lot of effort of reinventing the weel to force it into a node.js
environment?

Besides that, we both have a large code base in RPG and so does our
customers, customers that may have programmers that never will understand
node.js code!

To me node.js (or whatever you find ported to PASE) must be complementary
to the existing ILE environment not an either/or.

We, in this forum, may be able to discuss node.js as the newest buzz on
IBM I but ask yourself if we represents the majority of IBM I programmers?




On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Kevin Turner <
kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

That is a fairly pointless comparison Henrik. You have probably
devoted many man hours to create your SDK, whereas none of us have
spent any man hours at all trying to create an equivalent offering
that can generate TEST/CRUD services for node. If we did, then it
might only take 4 minutes instead of 5 :)

As an aside, however, with sails you can generate a fully functional
model (schema/database table), controller, and REST web interface
simply by
running:
"sails generate api <table>"

The resulting table/model can be painlessly integrated to many
different types of database (of which DB2 is not yet one).

What you don't get is the feature rich UI for the table - but it could
be done.


-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik
Rützou
Sent: 14 October 2015 20:59
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Hosting a Large Number of Node Apps on the IBM i

Kelly

you never know what you run into, my web-systems runs side by side
with a varity of products.

btw, I am able to publish 600 tables with the same amount of generic
REST/CRUD services in less than 5 minutes by using my SDK - how long
do you think it will take to hand build the same in node.js?

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

and developing custom web and mobile apps for our employees to
perform their business processes.

Soon after you make the move to Web interfaces, you won't be
constrained to only supporting "employees". Most shops branch out to
supporting customers, trading partners, and providing greater
variety of Web services across more application areas.
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