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Re: Home page options for Apache on IBMi

Henrik,

The dichotomy of which job may have the program in the stack is the complicated part as you point out. You, an expert in these matters would know that and be able to work around it. Most folks don't have the in depth knowledge you have of the process and would be confused about why it might work in one circumstance and not in another.

Hence my explanation.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik Rützou
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:21 AM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Home page options for Apache on IBMi

Jim

lets not try to confuse things, you never know what QZSRCGI job a specific request runs under and QZSRCGI jobs are rather hard to figure out.

My experience is that you are able to replace a program in first level under the QZSRCGI job but not in the stack that runs in lower levels such as service programs.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Jim Oberholtzer < midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You'll be able to replace the program object yes, but it will not get
into the program stack until it is stopped/restarted.

The original object will be move (while in use) to library QRPLLIB and
continue to be used until it comes out of the program stack. Only then
will the new program be the one in use. Debugging becomes a real treat
since you are looking at the new source code and running the old
program if you don't restart the Apache instance.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik
Rützou
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:59 AM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Home page options for Apache on IBMi

Yes you need to run endtcpsvr to bring the program down.

However you may be able to replace the program without bringing the
server down - it all depends.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Joe W Holt <joe.holt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


That prompts the question I've often considered but haven't tested.
With that setup, leaving LR off and compiling into a named
activation group, does the program only end when the http server is dropped?

***
Regards,
Joe W Holt
Sr Programmer/Developer
Jack Onofrio Dog Shows, LLC
405.427.8181



From: Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)"
<web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/16/2015 09:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Home page options for Apache on IBMi
Sent by: "WEB400" <web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



CGI programs will never cache in Apache - but if you keep the
CGIDEV2 program active it shouldn't be a problem.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Joe W Holt <joe.holt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


That would simplify my issue since I wouldn't have to changed all
the
links
to the home page on all the other static pages. How would that
affect caching of the page? Given it is a program call can I
assume that it
would
pull every time?

***
Regards,
Joe W Holt
Sr Programmer/Developer
Jack Onofrio Dog Shows, LLC
405.427.8181



From: Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)"
<web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/16/2015 09:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Home page options for Apache on IBMi
Sent by: "WEB400" <web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



The easy way is to make a index page that points to a cgi program

<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<script language="JavaScript">
parent.location.href="/pextcgi/pxsession.pgm"
</script>
</body>
</html>

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Henrik Rützou <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

A index page on the apache can either be served as a static file
or
from
a CGIDEV2 program.

That is the short version

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Joe W Holt
<joe.holt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



I'm running the Apache server on our IBM i that serves our
public data
as
well as our intranet apps. Everything is static with the
exception of
our
cgi programs. Never considered other options like PHP since up
to this point everything can be done with RPG/CGIDEV2 if it
isn't static. Now
I
have need of dynamic data on our home page. This data doesn't
necessarily
change daily but would need to reflect any changes when they
are made
in
our physical files. In this environment would you suggest an
Apache include call to a cgi application or make the entire
home page dynamic getting
rid
of the static index.html. If the entire home/index page went
dynamic
would
I have to give the call a dot three extension for this to work?
I've noticed PHP sites have the .php extension. I do realize
that if I use
an
Include statement it changes the extension from html to shtml
which prompts what extension, if any, would be needed for a CGI
home page.

I've been hesitant to reach out to this group for topics such
as
this.
If
this is the wrong forum for this please let me know. Thanks to
Kelly
and
her SPA thread that prompted some rather good conversations
regarding options that aren't necessarily 400 related but is
served from the 400
I
figured I'd give it a shot. I really enjoyed the topic and the
thoughts
of
everyone who contributed. Some resources were given that I will
most definitely benefit. I'm in a small shop and the only
exposure I get to advances in tech on the 400 is through my own
personal research and
self
education. It's hard to decide what things I should try to
learn to
use
on
our server without hearing from others about joys and pitfalls
of
trying
it
on the 400. I pretty much have free reign to use whatever I
want as
long
as
licensing isn't financially onerous.


***
Regards,
Joe W Holt
Sr Programmer/Developer
Jack Onofrio Dog Shows, LLC
405.427.8181
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