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Mike,

You're absolutely right. Saw that coming years ago. It's all about
services now. Vendors are pushing services and services centric computing
in attempts to maximize their revenue flow, especially since the US has lost
its manufacturing base to the 3rd world and has become a services economy.

Vendors are also removing and giving condescending comments on older more
reliable systems with substantially less TCO in favor of systems with higher
TCO and much more services requirement. Unfortunately, many are drinking
the koolaid in this area and choosing to not see the picture because it's
probably not politically correct to do so and in some cases they were never
trained on the better systems in school - yet another intentional ploy.

Cloud users also are oblivious to security and who actually has their data
and where it actually resides. There's also some legal issues, to wit: if
your servers are in France, for instance, and you're using strong
cryptography in your data tables, your CEO could find his butt in a French
jail... And the beat goes on...

You're right on the money....
DR2


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Pavlak
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:25 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Android Development for the IBM i

And I was musing at the fact that we are simultaneously repeating history in
two directions:

1) Service Bureau's are back as "The Cloud"
2) Client Server is back as mobile applications on small devices!

Centralize...decentralize...centralize...decentralize...Oh hell, why not do
both at the same time!!! After all, we are a lot smarter now, aren't we?

The more things change, the more they stay the same!

Happy New year, all!!!

Mike
Office Phone: (708)233-5880 Cell: (408)679-1011


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:07 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Android Development for the IBM i

Funny, as I read Joe's post and Pete's reply I could not help but think
of the things that were said about AS/400 and OS/400 back in the day.
Same tune, different company. While I am not a big fan of the way Apple
has rolled out its products from a developers perspective, it is now up
to the corporate customer base to demand the types of APIs that have
built into IBM i over time. The GenX and GenY crowd will never demand
them since all they care about is finding a restaurant, texting, and
exposing their lives and secrets to the world at any chance. Real
business will have to demand them.

That's primarily why I carry an Android based phone, although Google has
some learning to do too.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/2/2012 7:47 PM, Pete Helgren wrote:
Nicely said, Joe. Choosing where to leverage your strengths is a
survival skill in this business. I have bet wrong a couple of times but
since 2001 learning Java has had the greatest positive impact on my
ability to stay afloat financially as a solo developer.

Pete Helgren
Value Added Software, Inc
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java


On 1/2/2012 5:06 PM, Joe Pluta wrote:
But if it comes down to having to learn individual languages and
platforms to support different platforms, I'll gladly support Android
and drop support for iPhone. Android: open platform, open language
(Java), open API. iPhone: closed platform, closed hardware, closed
language, closed API. Not a tough decision.
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