Joe,
Can you please define Thin Client versus Rich Client? I'm not sure what
you see as the difference?
Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
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On 11/21/2010 12:49 PM, Mike Pavlak wrote:
Ouch! Interesting observation about VB and PHP being "big losers" in
2010. Any data to back that up? When I check the Tiobe index I can see
that you may have a point. VB is tanking and PHP is showing a downward
trend. Objective-C is way up while Java and C are flat. But, this is an
index that tracks were the mass of programmers are heading and EXCITING
technology seems to win here. This index is also showing RPG is on the
uptake (woohoo!)
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html But, here
is another Tiobe report that shows PHP jobs on the uptick:
http://regulargeek.com/2010/01/14/googles-go-and-apple-development-are-gaining-ground/
Well, that is a bit of an older review - at that point Google Go was
still a hot up and comer. It already flared out. But really, it
certainly is only one viewpoint. I do like the fact that RPG cracked
the top 20 for the second time in as many years. Go RPG!
Gartner has some interesting observations about commercial
implementations, but most of those reports require a fee.
Alexa shows internet sites by traffic where PHP owns 7 of the top 10.
Interesting observations can be made about these statistics.
http://www.alexa.com/topsites
Yup, and you can figure out what you want from statistics. One that's
usually pretty good is jobs. On Dice.com, there are currently 72 PHP
jobs in the Chicago metro area. Java has 575. I guess all those top
sites don't need a lot of programmers! Then again, there are only 8 RPG
jobs and there aren't ANY jobs for EGL. Statistics!
Oh, and I think each of those devices still supports this crazy thing
called a browser? While Objective C and other client based languages may
be exciting, the iPhone apps still only run on an iPhone. I say let the
people have a choice and if they want an iPhone app then so be it. But if
a company needs to write an app to run on all handhelds, a browser based
app still rocks regardless of the technology used to deliver it.
Yes indeed, browsers are nice. But then again, are you talking thin
client apps or rich client? It's relatively easy to use PHP for a thin
client application, not quite so easy to do, say, Dojo. (It can be
done, but there's considerably more learning curve than just grabbing
something from the Internet.) With EGL, you can do thin and rich with
pretty much the same code, and with Java you can do Droid as well. Java
and EGL work hand in hand so that seems like one good overall direction
for learning.
I love having options and the ability to discuss them in the free world!
Woohoo!!!
And since we're right between Veterans Day and Thanksgiving, be sure to
thank your veterans for that freedom!
Joe
midrange.com
