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I agree with your assessment Jon. The issue I see is that they have an
awkward balance of taking things either not for enough or too far based on
not enough real world experience.

The XML Toolkit stuff doesn't allow for cases where the party you are
communicating with has either oddities or isn't using formal web services as
it was defined 5 years ago (i.e. WSDL+SOAP).

My hope is that we could somehow convince IBM to support open source RPG
initiatives to the point of them giving customers easy access to
repositories that can be downloaded onto machines with similar ease of
installing an Android application on your phone (it should be that easy with
all of the technology we have today).

IBM simply can't move fast enough on the RPG front to keep up with the
half-life of popular technologies.

Aaron Bartell
www.OpenRPGUI.com

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have a world of respect for Tim and what he's been trying to achieve
Vern, but having looked at the web client stuff I wouldn't spend any
more time on it unless they make major changes.

It is very limited and has only about 1/10th the capability of Scott's
HTTPAPI. As you noted, it requires the C compiler - which in turn
means that if anything goes wrong you stand little chance of fixing
it. With Scott's stuff, on the rare occasions when there is a problem,
you can debug it yourself as well as enlisting the help of the
community.

My take is the built-in server seesm to work well - I haven't tried to
deploy existing apps with it, but the web services generated by the
wizard that use your underlying RPG or COBOL is pretty good.

In my opinion though, the client side is not worth the effort except
for with clients who will not consider anything that doesn't say "Made
by IBM" on it. HTTPAPI by itself or in conjunction with WDSL2RPG do a
far better and more comprehensive job. This (the client side) is one
of those areas where I'd rather IBM spend its money on something else.


Jon Paris

www.Partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com



On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:29 AM, web400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Now to get the client working in RPG, you still need the C compiler.
Aaron, did you hear Tim's presentation at the Summit? He spoke of
several things around this - can't remember what's NDA at the moment!

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