Re: Microsoft .NET frontending IBM i

Kevin,

webservices is like EDIFACT, somebody think that they can make a generic
selfexplaining service,
but in fact it is in the data and the structure of the data and codeset of
the data (category A is send,
but the reciever has either catagory X or Y it has to end up in) the whole
problem are.

You start up with a standard, but you always ends up with a bilatteral
agreement.

Another thing is to make reuseable webservices to acommondate a MS .NET
framework from the
iSeries dosn't make sence or letting a Browser Client being build to
communicate with the server with
XML based webservices whoild IMO be a very wrong systemm architecture
because it would create
a huge overhead not only in serverside processing but also in transferring
huge XML documents over
the ned (huge in relation to JSON) and would create a lot of processing on
the client side.

When creating modern RIA's you should concentrate of making the smalles
footprint in all aspects
of the delivery chain.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:36 PM, <TAllen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

C# all the way.

From what I understand in the market here is that job seekers don't like

to
list VB on resumes. C# is preferred by far.
Knowing Java, it was easier for me to pick up C# due to the similarities.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
tallen@xxxxxxxxxxxx




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All C#. VB still leaves that bad after-taste. I know it is probably better
now, C# feels more like Java to me and I started first learning Java.

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On Oct 9, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

No reason not to shamelessly promote. I do when the request warrants

it :)

Yeah, I gave up on native ASP.Net too when I found out IBM had done the

work, but wouldn't let it out the door. The lukewarm response from
Rochester this summer sealed the deal :)

The closest we got was using the Mainsoft technology which is cool

because you actually DO develop in Visual Studio and they convert it to
Java runtimes.

We've used Mainsoft for a few production applications, but it's still

easier to deploy .Net on a Windows server and it's much more mainstream as
well.

Do you guys use VB or C# for language of choice ?

I've found that most RPGers gravitate towards VB because the syntax is a

little simpler. Include me in that camp as well even though I do a lot of
Java too :)

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Hi Richard

First point, our web site is ancient and was put together in 10 minutes

(we

produce good web applications for our customers but our own web site

comes

way down the list of development priorities!).

I don't think our site suggests anything magical? We do obviously run
ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> on Windows servers and just use a database

access layer to

communicate with either DB2 or SQL Server (the choice is made at table
level). We simply use the IBM provider like any others. We do implement

data

caching to reduce the number of calls to the DB2 database (or SQL

database)

but really the complexity lies in the application design and business

logic

just as it would in any other scenario.

As regards to running .NET natively on the iSeries I gave up that dream a
long time ago, and if my verbiage suggests that we do then I best change

the

wording a.s.a.p. (new site will be along soon).

P.S. I am not promoting my business in this group (you would have to be
kidding!!).

Regards

Maurice

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