Re: Microsoft .NET frontending IBM i

The WSDL should not change a whole lot after deployment, if done right.
Schemas, which can change, are normally included by the WSDL. Given that,
you are going to delve into the XML/XSD whether done using SOAP or a simple
POST.

Don't get me wrong - I argued for years for the simple POST approach. It
worked well. Too many partners wanted to use SOAP so you must give them
what they want.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
tallen@xxxxxxxxxxxx




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You don't need to know a lot about WSDL's until you start developing
more complex data streams that talk to many different platforms and
languages. In the end, if you are offering public web services, you
will inevitably become familiarized with WSDL/XSD/XML because not
everyone does it like Microsoft. And then once you become familiar
with WSDL/XSD/XML and have to "debug" it for your customers, you will
inevitably say to yourself: why not simplify this approach to use HTTP
POST + simple XML (like I said earlier in this post).

Just my experience of the roughly 10yrs I have been doing web services
(with the last 6 years doing it almost fulltime).

Aaron Bartell
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:22 AM, <TAllen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<shakes head>
I find it baffling that someone developing web services cannot interpret

or

read a WSDL or XML schema.  It's not uncommon.  I run into it all the

time.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
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Isn't that the point of object oriented development.  Building black
boxes :-)

Just a minute.  Let me get my hammer and chisel.  Clang...Clang...
Ouch :-)

Try bending your mind around it and you might find that the better way it
to NOT hand code WSDL.....  Clang...Clang...

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date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:00:20 -0400
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subject: Re: [WEB400] Microsoft .NET frontending IBM i

Then I'd say you are working with a black box, letting the WSDL be
generated for you.  That may work great, until you need to interpret or
read the WSDL or schemas while debugging or troubleshooting.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
tallen@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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