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Re: What's the latest thinking of thebest twoorthreewebdevelopment languages/environ...

Dave

All the redbooks are at www.redbooks.ibm.com - did a search there on "apache iseries" - no quotes

Here is the link to the main book, "IBM HTTP Server (powered by Apache): An Integrated Solution for IBM eServer iSeries Servers", including additional materials -

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246716.html

Even better is the following -

Enabling CGI Programs and Net.Data for Your IBM eServer iSeries V5R2 HTTP Server (powered by Apache)


http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0059.html
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dave Odom" <Dave.Odom@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Vern,

Got into the http://your-iseries-ip:2001 and logged in. Now I have to figure
out where to go from there. I may have to get our systems programmers involved
but don't know.

Did you send me the URL on the Apache Red Book; been looking.

Dave

8/12/2008 05:42 >>>
Dave

You need some kind of HTTP server - that is provided with licensed product
5722-DG1 - in releases somewhere before v5r4 this gave you 2 servers - the
so-called original, based on CERN, I believe, and Apache. Now there is only
Apache. It's not like it's extra - it's what the HTTP environment is.

There is a browser tool for setting these up - it was also used for the older
server setup. You simply start the *ADMIN HTTP server instance, then in your
browser go to http://your ( http://your/ )-iseries-ip:2001 and log in and go
from there.

There was and is always setup needed for the HTTP server instances. The chapter
in the Apache Redbook is quite clear and simple, although it assumes you already
have an Apache HTTP server instance defined. But you can get a default version
of that - in fact, there probably is one - to which you add the Net.Data stuff.
There is usually an instance called APACHEDFT that exists when you install the
licensed product - I think - heh - it's early and I'm just back from fantastic
days in Texas - oh - the Nimitz museum is not to be missed!!

I suggest taking the example(s) in that Redbook and follow the bouncing ball -
there are also additional materials - at least a SAVF of stuff to put on the
iSeries - that contain a lot of good stuff. Appendix in the manual has info and
instructions.

Now I've never read the Redbook - just gone to that admin page - the one with
port 2001. That's usually been enough. The config files reside in the IFS -
/www/instance-name as in /www/apachedft

HTH
Vern
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dave Odom"

Vern, and other Net.Data and PHP folks,

I thought you could run whatever Net.Data needed from the HTTP environment on
the i and thus there was no need for Apache? What am I missing about how this
is set up. I'll have to look at the Net.Data books you suggested again unless
there are newer/better. Then, if Apache is necessary I'll have to find that
set of manuals.

I'd also like to compare some Net.Data and PHP code to see how they do the
same
thing. Know of any examples?

Boy did I start a discussion here. Didn't think it would get this far but the
discussion has been a good learning experience for me but I think I've just
hit
the tip of the ice burg.

But, it now appears like the choices, for me, for now, are Net.Data and PHP.
Again, for now, my needs are fairly simple... picture the old Green Screen
menus
that allow you to move from main menu to subordinate with selections per topic
area on each. That's what I need for now as a Web app with those selections
calling REXX, perhaps some CL/RPG and DB2 Query Manager queries, Commands like
WRKSPLF where the spool files don't belong to the user logged on but are
accesses, under the covers, by generic userid with the privlidges with the
spoolfile displayed on the Web (perhaps the hardest to do).... this sort of
thing. No fancy stuff... yes using CSS would be nice but not necessary.
Thoughts on how to knock this out fairly quickly from
nothing-set-up-on-the-system to production web app(s)?

Thanks,

Dave

8/9/2008 10:58 >>>
Nathan

Very cool!

I see, for Dave's benefit, that the Apache HTTP Server Redbook has a very
simple
example, as well as additional materials that can set up things pretty
quickly.
Some of the stuff returns a table all filled out - and a CSS import could take
care of any style concerns very nicely.

Vern

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Nathan Andelin

From: vhamberg@...
it is good to hear this from one who is actually using it, if I read
you correctly.

I'm currently using a Net.Data file upload utility, which is based on a
macro
supplied by Peter Connell. The following thread is part of somewhat lengthy
discussion on that topic:

http://archive.midrange.com/web400/200804/msg00013.html

I used Net.Data for a small contract job I did for Pearson Publishing (in
the
UK) a number of years ago. I'm also aware of a couple ISVs using Net.Data
for
applications for K-12 school districts in the US.

I actually did a bit of comparative analysis by prototyping an application
using
three different tools, one of which was my own ILE framework, while the
other
two were Net.Data & CGIDEV2. As I began working with Net.Data, it struck me
how
seductive it is to just save a macro on the IFS and run it. There's no
compile
step. And any errors are reported automatically in the output.

Nathan.



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