PHP has all of the equivalents of chain, read, etc. You just have to know a
little db2/400 sql programming. The idea though, if you are an RPG'er is to
only use PHP and style sheets for presentation and use existing or new
business logic in the RPG.

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces+bmis04=es.marywood.edu@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:web400-bounces+bmis04=es.marywood.edu@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Machado, Jorge
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:50 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendationsofwebdevelopmentarchitecture/tool for
diverse i5 access...

I understand that the BCD tool will do that. i.e.

I now use BCD WebSmart which uses a language called pml but I have all of
the CHAIN, READ, READE equivalents.

So my understanding of the new BCD WebSmart PHP product is that it allows
to use PHP and access DB2. May not be chain as an opcode it may be
get_record or whatever. (..then again I may be wrong.....)

Jorge A. Machado
Mgr. of Applications and Programming.
Bristol Hospital - Information Services 860 585-3033 /
jmachado@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:43 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendationsofwebdevelopmentarchitecture/tool
for diverse i5 access...


PHP is a very nice language for developing applications quickly without much
complication. I haven't written serious business apps with PHP and instead
have used it more as a alternative to Java when not on the i5.
The biggest bummer I see with PHP is that you don't have the nice and easy
DB access that RPG has with CHAIN, READ, READE, etc. Some might not
consider that a bummer at all. Some would debate PHP as an enterprise ready
infrastructure (I believe I have in the past), but it is getting some
serious acceptance from the world and Zend is constantly fine tuning it for
the enterprise.

My experience with PHP on the i5 is limited as the Zend install I tried
failed miserably. I must note that it was the beta version for V5R3.
They have since release full support for PHP on V5R3 and it would probably
work just fine now - just my experience with PHP on the i5.

If I had to put an order of precedence for picking technologies to build web
pages for i5 RPG shops here is the order I would go. Obviously there are
many variables involved, so this list could be debated on many fronts and I
would probably agree with a number of the debates.
Anyways, here is my direction today:

RPG CGI on the i5 (eRPGSDK, Profound Logics RPGsp is also a very nice
option, CGIDEV2, etc) PHP on the i5 Java on the i5 (Tomcat as servlet
engine) PHP on Linux in i5 partition Java on Linux in i5 partition

And lastly, on an academic level, I would love to do Ruby On Rails on the
i5. It can be done today on i5OS theoretically, but I haven't had time to
prove my theory:-)

You'll notice I have them all on the i5. IMO there is a lot of benefit to
having everything on one integrated hardware platform. The i5 is built to
facilitate this. Many companies don't realize that allowing another
language or platform in the door can make for a mess in 10 years when you
have 5 languages on numerous platforms to support. Just think of all the
different conferences you would have to send your staff to for starters!

My $.02,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Craig Jacobsen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:26 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations ofwebdevelopmentarchitecture/tool for
diverse i5 access...

Why not use PHP??

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:20 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of webdevelopmentarchitecture/tool for
diverse i5 access...

I think recommendations have to be made based on the needs and existing
infrastructure of a company. With that said and being this is a list where
I am guessing everyone has an System i5 in house, Brad's recommendation for
RPG CGI is quite valid. Going the RPG CGI route (for an RPG shop)
allows
them to cash in on existing knowledge and hardware investments (talking many
hundreds of thousands of dollars even for a shop with only 5 developers).

What advantages does ASP.NET 2.0 have over RPG CGI for a shop with a wealth
of RPG knowledge? I think when people make recommendations of ASP.NET they
don't realize how much change needs to take place to facilitate enterprise
level computing (read solid business apps).

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 AM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Recommendations of web developmentarchitecture/tool
for diverse i5 access...

Brad

Glad to know you are still alive, enjoyed your first book!

Don't necessarily agree with the RPG bit though? Would recommend ASP.NET 2.0

Regards

Maurice O'Prey


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