Re: HTML - presentation vs structure

Blair,
 
It could have been one of the 3800s.  If you got a good look, it was
probably about 15 feet long and about 5 feet high.   The 3800 came in
different models and some would cut, burst and stack paper instead of
just do fan fold.  Most of the time in IBM we only used white paper and
sometimes of different types (three hole, no holes, etc.)  The cut,
burst and stack was particularly handy if you put 3-hole paper in the
machine.   Then you could print documents, like IBM manuals or redbooks
which, when they came out the other end, were ready to be put in
three-ring binders.  
 
The "far fetched" is not that at all.   THIS PRINTER WAS FAST.  I'm
trying to remember but it seems like there were speeds around 18,000
lines per second.    It would start and stop with amazing speed.   You
needed to have a good source of paper brought in often OR your own
forest and paper plant.
 
At the Tucson plant we had three or four of them and one person's job,
all day, was to feed them and move their output to folks that would
separate same and put in distribution bins for the entire plant.  There
were 7 VM machines and 4 MVS machines sending printing to those 3800s.  
 The main computer floor was over an acre.  Most of the DASD was housed
downstairs in another room.   Then there were two other computer rooms
of smaller size.   This to server about 5,500 folks developing and
manufacturing products. 
 
Later,
 
Dave

"B Hamren" <bhamren@xxxxxxxxx> 2/9/2007 06:53 >>>

Dave,

Around 1980 the Math / Computer Science club at Winona State University
took
a tour of the Rochester plant. Their highlight to show us was the
latest and
greatest S/38 but that all went over my head and left no impression.
The
main thing I remember there was a room that had a laser printer for
their
internal reports that was extremely fast. Maybe it was one of these
3800s.
Later, after I started working in the S/34 & S/38 world, Bill Oberg at
the
Rochester plant told me about the printer I saw. He said the paper came
on a
big roll and it printed green bar and perfed the paper as it went.
They
couldn't use boxes of paper because turning it on and then turning it
off
would use almost a whole box of paper. That seems a bit far-fetched but
the
printer was impressive enough to be my main memory of the plant tour.

Blair Hamren


"Dave Odom" wrote

GML was created to be a mechanism of generating
interpretive "code" for making publications especially those that

would

be printed by IBM laser printers.  The old 3800 comes to mind which
printed continuous sheets at MANY thousands of lines per minute

(kinda

like a mini version of how a newspaper is printed except using

dynamic

content creation, not static plates).