Re: RPG and AJAX was->RE: How do I create a webpagethat.... -- WEB400

My personal feeling on this is that if you can *reduce* the number of
bytes going over the wire using AJAX, go for it (assuming your
audience can handle it, etc.).  If you increase the number of bytes
going over the wire, it may not be worth it.  In some cases, the
enhanced user experience might make up for it, but you'd definitely
need to do your homework first.

Mike E.

On 4/5/06, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You've nailed it on the head Nathan.  There are some definite uses where
> AJAX makes a better fit. Too bad it has to be cornered into those specific
> uses because of technology inadequacy. Though some users have come to accept
> the browsers downfalls and are "willing to wait" for things to be
> accomplished.
>
> I tried Yahoo's Mail BETA also and like it much better than their standard
> interface, but oddly enough the best feature I like is I don't get prompted
> to log in every time I go there :-)
>
> One site that has done quite the job of using AJAX is zimbra.com. They have
> a live demo you can try out that is quite impressive.
>
> Aaron Bartell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Nathan Andelin
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:08 PM
> To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: [WEB400] RPG and AJAX was->RE: How do I create a
> webpagethat....
>
> Just keep in mind that the "A" in AJAX stands for "asynchronous", and adding
> records to a file and refreshing the list on the screen doesn't require an
> asynchronous request / response.
>
> The general idea of AJAX is making a request to the server and processing a
> response, in the background, without interrupting the current activity on
> the screen.  One of the best uses I've seen for AJAX was having the "onblur"
> event of a Zip Code field trigger an asynchronous request to automatically
> fill in City and State fields, while the user continues filling in other
> form data.
>
> This isn't to say that I'd be against using AJAX to post database changes
> and update the list, but it's not clear to me how the added complexity would
> improve the user interface.
>
> I just started using Yahoo's Mail BETA, which evidently is Yahoo's answer to
> Google's Gmail client, and I like the user interface, but when I.E. prompts
> me to debug JavaScript errors, a 680K Javascript file is presented in the
> debugger.  It's interesting to see that Yahoo Mail BETA uses AJAX
> extensively.  But I ask myself, is all this JavaScript necessary?
>
> Nathan.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Wilt, Charles" <CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 12:51:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [WEB400] RPG and AJAX was->RE: How do I create a web
> pagethat....
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Good points, however in this case I do want the server to validate the input
> and in fact return a few extra fields from the server.
>
> Ajax seems to be a possible solution, or perhaps JSF and Java beans.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles Wilt
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