Hi Nathan
WebSphere portal version 5 is good and the persistence of state is
there. We are using HOD for iseries on our portal so that branches can
connect easily. Its easy to extend portlets for WAP and webservices.
Also there are lots of portlets coming up in portlet catalog.
The worst side is its very slow though we are trying to achieve


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Nathan M. Andelin
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:33 AM
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WEB400] Re: Portals

> I am convinced that portal servers are the key
> technology that will enable the next generation
> of killer applications for the iSeries.


You may be introducing us to something significant!  If Web development
ever going to move past store fronts, and similarly modern, yet isolated
applications, and finally reach the point of robust integrated systems,
something like portals will be necessary.

It was nice to see screen shots and to test Razwin's site.  IBM's
implementation is DOG SLOW, but many of the user interface elements are

One thing that I and my colleagues have really struggled with is coming
with UI models that could be applied across a broad range of
This has been my biggest bottleneck.  It would be great to have an
application container define standard styling and behavioral elements
might be replicated across applications running within the container.
looks like IBM may be on the right track with "theme" and "skin"

User interface models, in turn lead to program models, offering patterns
that other developers might use to develop applications that integrate
the container, as well as with one another, via shared data structures
other components.

User based "Roles" is a key component to me.  One role might define a
environment while another role might define a production environment,
example, with the test environment pointing to one library list while
production environment points to another.  One role might provide access
certain menu options and authorities, while other roles provide access
others.  Even record level access in applications may be defined
to role.

It seems that IBM may have missed an opportunity in their implementation
have the container manage the state of individual portlets.  Minimizing
portlet, for example seems to refresh the entire container, and the
state of the portlet seems to be lost.  It would be nice for users to be
able to swap between panels and portlets, without disrupting the state
other portlets or panels that may be active.

Thanks for an insightful introduction to portlals.  I've been working on
similar project, that we've been calling an Application Control Center,
it's nice to see an IBM implementation for reference.


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