> From: Mark Phippard
> I normally just monitor this list on the Archives, but I felt
compelled to
> subscribe so I can post a response on this Struts question.
> Joe, some of your responses show that you do not really know what
> is.

Mark, did you read all of my responses before you started whacking me?
I know full well what Struts is.  However, the Struts advocates always
say (as David did) that Struts is better than JSP/servlet.  The
Controller architecture by itself works with JSP and scriptlets - it's
not until you attach a specific taglib that you replace JSP.

Anyway, I'm not going to argue about it.  You use Struts, great, but
there at least a dozen competing technologies.  I just get tired of
hearing people say that Struts provides MVC architecture for JSP/servlet
technology.  That's not true.  JSP Model II provided that long before
Struts, and Struts is simply one guy's implementation of an

It's not a standard.  It's not a technology.  It's not an architecture.
It's one man's implementation.  And there are better (and worse) ones
out there.

> It allowed me to easily
> develop a "Model" that can be used in any Java application, regardless
> whether Struts is involved.

Me, I just leave the whole Struts part out completely!  Anyway, we'll
see.  Lots of people use alternate techniques, and we'll see what


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