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<Hans> Regarding CGIDEV2: Again, my point is that productivity is the key thing here. There are a heck of a lot of good tools out there providing robust and highly productive frameworks for CGI app development. J2EE is one, but they also exist for a number of other languages. In comparison, to be very blunt, CGIDEV2 simply can't hope to match the productivity of these other frameworks. CGIDEV2 lacks the functionality of the web frameworks, and a static compiled language like RPG doesn't have the flexibility that other dynamic OO languages have. (Before anyone takes issue with the last statement, would you accept more flexibility in RPG if it meant that your apps performed 10 times slower?) </Hans> I definitely agree. -----Original Message----- From: Hans Boldt [mailto:boldt@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:37 AM To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [WEB400] Re: Modify the IE Browser Bartell, Aaron L. (TC) wrote: > I feel the same way. The closest thing that makes RPG viable in the browser > is CGIDEV2, IMO. Otherwise I am still tied to creating DDS in one way or > another. Microsoft's Visual Studio kicks butt in the market of creating web > applications. I hope the Java IDE world catches up soon. I think the > technologies are out there, the ease-of-use is lacking. > Regarding CGIDEV2: Again, my point is that productivity is the key thing here. There are a heck of a lot of good tools out there providing robust and highly productive frameworks for CGI app development. J2EE is one, but they also exist for a number of other languages. In comparison, to be very blunt, CGIDEV2 simply can't hope to match the productivity of these other frameworks. CGIDEV2 lacks the functionality of the web frameworks, and a static compiled language like RPG doesn't have the flexibility that other dynamic OO languages have. (Before anyone takes issue with the last statement, would you accept more flexibility in RPG if it meant that your apps performed 10 times slower?) That's not to say RPG can't be part of a web application. Using a "Model View Controller" architecture, RPG can still be used to implement the "Model". But the "View" and "Controller" portions are simply better served by other tools (like JSP's and Servlets, respectively, to follow the J2EE model). (Productivity and competition *have* to be considered. If you spend $1,000,000 developing your product, but then a competitor comes along and develops an equivalent product for $500,000, can you still price your product as if it were a $1,000,000 product? Of course not. You have to lower your price in order to compete, regardless of the sunk costs.) Cheers! Hans _______________________________________________ This is the Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries (WEB400) mailing list To post a message email: WEB400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/web400 or email: WEB400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/web400.
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