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If you look at Eclipse, you'll see that even IBM decided the
"presentation" controls that Java has are too darn slow for a real IT
shop to use. So they decided to NOT use them and went with the native
Windows and Motif controls.
Java is pretty good as a user interface control language, but the native
Swing controls and Java in general, just doesn't perform well enough to
warrant moving a mission critical application to it, unless performance
is not an issue.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: web400-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:web400-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Eyers, Daniel
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: 'web400@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: [WEB400] Resort back to RPG?
>
>
> I wonder how RPG will be able to handle things like reading
> Excel spreadsheets natively or handle network connectivity
> (i.e. java.net) or run effectively on a PC.
>
> Java "for presentation" is a short sided view, at best;
> certainly not appropriate for a company that supposedly
> embraces open source efforts.
>
> dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan M. Andelin [mailto:nandelin@RELATIONAL-DATA.COM]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: web400@midrange.com
> Subject: [WEB400] Resort back to RPG?
>
>
> > From: "Brad Stone" <brad@bvstools.com>
> > There's no rule that says it has to be all Java.  Even IBM
> > is saying to use RPG for everything and Java for
> > presentation.   In a couple more years, they'll resort back
> > to just using RPG for everything again.  :)
>
> That's a thought provoking prediction, Brad.  At this point
> IBM is bent on common middleware across all platforms.  While
> Microsoft continues to pump proprietary middleware for Wintel.
>
> On the iSeries, I believe that proprietary has the advantage
> from an efficiency, reliability, ease of implementation perspective.
>
> But wouldn't common middleware lead to better, more
> integrated systems?  Or would it eventually lead to Java
> deployment on the lowest common denominator?  Which is
> perhaps Wintel, or Lintel?
>
> Nathan M. Andelin
> www.relational-data.com
>
>
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