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>> What, in your eyes Jon, is extra special about CGIDEV2? The fact that it is a complete set of wrappers for just about all aspects of the job. Everything from receiving input (without having to know the source) through validating and converting numerics (with the error message capability built-in) to the building of the output, through debugging etc. It is not perfect, but it is very good and the examples are all fully documented and based on the supplied template programs. >> What is in it that couldn't be done by knowing the APIs, SQL, HTML, Javascript, etc? Nothing - but as your own posts showed when the new APIs were introduced a release or so back - it isn't always easy to get through IBM's "terse" documentation. In addition, since you _get_ all of the source to all of the wrappers as well as the samples, those who want to know the nuts an bolts can easily obtain that information. I, like you, like to know what goes on under the hood, but I hate having to reinvent the wheel. CGIDEV2 satisfies me in that respect because I can just use it or take the time to understand how it works. >> Would knowing how to do these things be more valuable, or are the tools? Both. CGIDEV2 satisfies two audiences. Those like me who want to know how it works and those many hundreds that I've met at seminars etc. who don't care. They just want something that works (almost) as easily as DDS/EXFMT - CGIDEV2 gives them that while allowing you to see how the engine works and modify it if you wish. It seems to be getting an "open source" feel with various people adding enhancements and Mel building new features into the base. +--- | This is the WEB400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to WEB400@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to WEB400-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to WEB400-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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