Re: RDi Error Message -- WDSCI-L

Hi Vernon,

That is correct Service Entry Point breakpoints can only be set on ILE
programs, not OPM. The OPM program header does not allow for it.

You would start debug an OPM program with Debug As... whatever, just not
SEP. The STRRSESVR setup was for debugging interactive programs in the
pre-SEP age. And yes, you can start the debug session with a CLLE that
calls your OPM program and set the SEP on that. Am I the only one that
remembers life before SEP? ;)

All the best, Mike

Mike Hockings, M.Eng., P.Eng.
DevOps for Enterprise
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From: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2019/02/22 13:07
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Error Message
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Mike - I hope I'm right when I say, that SEP breakpoints can't be set
for OPM programs - so my question is, does the RDi debugger only use SEP
breakpoints now?

STRDBG does have the OPMSRC parameter that lets you say you want to
debug if it was created with *LSTDBG or *SRCDBG. That option is not
anywhere in the prerefences, but if RDi only uses SEP, then it probably
can only be done using Jon's method of wrapping with an ILE program.

Regards
Vern

On 2/21/2019 7:58 PM, Mike Hockings wrote:

Well, some thoughts...

SEP can only be set on ILE programs because the OPM program header is not
large enough to contain the data as I understand it.

For this specific issue what is the IBM i version, greater than 7.1

maybe?

I will be opening an APAR to do with debug of OPM programs where it has
been compiled with *SOURCE but the source has been moved or renamed. If
that happens the debugger gets an error when trying to open the source

that

causes the debug session to end. I think that *LISTING would be fine -

if the debugger can find the source where it was compiled ;) Could this

a factor in this case?

Mike

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From: Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2019/02/21 11:49
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Error Message
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

In our RDi classes we include OPM programs in the debug session.

RDi can debug OPM just fine _but_ because it uses the SEP approach the

OPM

cannot be the first program in the sequence.

Just simply create an ILE program that does nothing more that call the

OPM

and then set that one to debug and step into the OPM. Easy.

I know a couple of people who wrote a simple ILE program that took the

OPM

program name as a parm so that you only need a single shell program - not
one for each OPM source you need to debug.

Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Hi Doug

I looked in RDI settings (9.6 version) and do not see the option to

debug

OPM source - debugging in RDi does use SEP (service entry point)
breakpoints, I don't remember if those can be used only with ILE

programs.

The STRDBG command does have an option for OPM source (OPMSRC) - in the

OS, this lets your program be called by an ILE program and still be
debugged, or the program itself can be called for debugging.

The OPMSRC option does not seem to be available in RDi - the STRDBG

option for updating production data is there - so for now, unless someone
knows differently, you will need to do the debugging in an emulator
session.

This sounds like an opportunity to submit and RFE.

HTH
Vern

On 2/21/2019 9:37 AM, Belcher, Doug [COMRES/WR/STL] wrote:

Ken,

Understood, however it is not mine to convert and I was hoping to find

way to get it done as an OPM. I think I will have him try Craig's
suggestion.

The one thing I'm still not clear on is why he could debug it in GS and

not RDi. Maybe he had a copy in his library list that he did not

transfer

over to RDi?

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-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Ken

Killian

Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:06 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Error Message

Doug,

I believe that RDI cannot debug 27+ year old OPM/RPG-III/RPG-400.
Just convert it to RPGLE, recompile and then try debug again. That

should work.

RDI cannot debug RPG-II either, that is over 40 years. That was before

my time. :P

I do it all the time with CLP, I change the type to CLLE, recompile,

and

then I can debug in RDI!

<Joy Joy>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of

Belcher,

Doug [COMRES/WR/STL]

Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:55 AM
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Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDi Error Message

All,

Had a co-worker just start using RDi and debug and he came up with an

error message I don't understand:

"Server: CPF9584 OPM program P5547052 cannot be added to ILE debug

environment. Program P5547052 in library WRDTST cannot be added to the

ILE

debug environment because it does not contain OPM source debug data."

Firstly it is not an ILE program, so why did it try and debug it under

ILE? Secondly, he told me it was compiled with Debug source data, so why
did RDi tell him it had none. Lastly, he was able to go to a GS session
and debug it with STRDBG.

I had him go through the steps that I take with debugging an OPM, i.e.

use the Debug Configuration, point it to my active jobs, apply and debug.
I checked and it is an OPM with all observable information. Not sure

what

to check next.

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