Re: Latest Version of iSphere -- WDSCI-L

Hi Craig,

You are welcome. I am happy we could sort it out and that it eventually worked.

Best Regards,

Thomas.

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Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Craig Richards
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 00:02
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] Latest Version of iSphere

Hi Thomas,

I didn't have RDi on my main machine running under administrator privileges.

Changing that sorted it out.

Oddly those update messages don't normally appear, I only saw them the one
time I cancelled the install while it was computing alternatives, otherwise
I might have realised earlier that I was being a muppet...

Thanks again for helping out - I'm sorry to have wasted your time...

best regards,
Craig

On 20 June 2018 at 19:29, Tools/400 <thomas.raddatz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Craig,

From what I can see, I thing that there is nothing wrong with what you
do for updating iSphere.

I never saw that "and updates are not permitted" error before and I do
not know what it should tell us.

Could you try to run RDi with administrator privileges?

Regards,

Thomas.

Am 20.06.2018 um 10:03 schrieb Craig Richards:

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your reply.

I'm not sure if I'm doing something incorrectly, but I downloaded the zip
file from SourceForge as you suggested and added the archive as a local
update site.
I then tried to do the install as before e.g via Help | Install New
Software.

You can see the screen here:

http://www.greywidget.co.uk/rdi/rdi_001.gif

It appeared to have the same conflict - it started doing the compute
alternate solutions thing.
At that point I cancelled it by clicking the red square on the dialogue

box.

Once I did that I got a screen that informed me:

Cannot complete the request. See the error log for details.
iSphere Message Subsystem for RDi 8.0+ (optional) will be ignored because
it is already installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Task Tags for RDi 8.0+ (optional) will be ignored because it is
already installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Help (optional) will be ignored because it is already installed,
and updates are not permitted.
iSphere for RDi 8.0+ (recommended) will be ignored because it is already
installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Journal Explorer for RDi 8.0+ (optional) will be ignored because

it

is already installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere STRPREPRC Support (optional) will be ignored because it is

already

installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Lpex Editor Extensions (optional) will be ignored because it is
already installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Core (required) will be ignored because it is already installed,
and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Job Log Explorer for RDi 8.0+ (optional) will be ignored because

it

is already installed, and updates are not permitted.
iSphere Compare Filters for RDi 9.5+ (recommended) will be ignored

because

it is already installed, and updates are not permitted.

I don't want to confuse the main issue with the messages above, I was

just

curious about them as they sound like I would need to remove iSphere and
reinstall as they say "updates are not permitted" but maybe it's not
relevant.

I'm not wishing to waste any more of your time with this except can you
confirm from the screen shot above that I'm doing what you expect?
I don't understand from that screen why it would be trying to do an

update

of anything except iSphere.

thanks and best regards,
Craig

On 20 June 2018 at 08:07, Thomas Raddatz <thomas.raddatz@xxxxxx> wrote:

Craig,

iSphere does not have a dependency to any plug-ins with an ID starting
with "com.ibm.debug.*". Hence I do not think that the problem is

related to

iSphere. I assume that you will get the same error when attempting to
update or install any other plug-in. What happens when you use the IBM
Installation Manager to search for updates for RDi?

The most reliable option to install iSphere is downloading the iSphere
update site zip file from SourceForge. You can add the zip file as a

local

update site and install/update iSphere from there.

I currently consider setting up my own update server because of the
problems with SourceForge. But I did not made a final decision.

Best Regards,

Thomas.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Craig
Richards
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 10:29
An: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client

for

System i & iSeries
Betreff: Re: [WDSCI-L] Latest Version of iSphere

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your reply. ( And for your excellent plugin )

On the backup machine, the install ( not re-install ) which eventually
worked, I initially tried http://isphere.sourceforge.

net/eclipse/rdi8.0/

which
failed with some complaint about the repository ( sorry can't remember

the

exact error ) and this looked like the error that has been documented

when

you have installed in the default location. But I have my shortcut for

RDi

set up to run under Admin, which is supposed to fix that problem but it
didn't in my case.

I remembered this post from when I originally installed iSphere on my

main

machine and saw that Dave Clark had listed
http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/isphere/eclipse/rdi8.0/ as the
address to use.
So I used that on the backup machine and it worked fine.
I installed it from RDI from the menu via Help | Install New Software

and

then pasting the Dave Clark url into the Work with box. I then selected

all

components except the last ( 5250 ) one.
This worked fine.

When I tried to repeat that process on my main machine, I got the error
described.

I tried again this morning to see if I can find more information about

the

exact dependency.
The first two times I tried it, came back with some "couldn't find
repository" error but I just tried again and it ran as before.

So in answer to your question, I think that since I posted that specific
url into the Work with field on the Available Software screen that I've
used a specific update site?

The error detail I get is:
Will be upgraded/downgraded: NI1 Fragment
Version: 1.3.0v20160105_1939
Id: com.ibm.debug.pdt.team.common.nl1

I tried the default option for alternate solutions which was: Update my
installation to be compatible with the items being installed.

This gave me a screen that says: "NI1 Fragment" cannot be fully

uninstalled

because other installed software requires it. The parts that are not
required will be uninstalled.

I've cancelled back out of it now because com.ibm.debug.pdt.team.common.
nl1
sounds like it might be something I need?

best regards,
Craig

On 18 June 2018 at 21:22, Tools/400 <thomas.raddatz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Craig,

Usually there is no need for uninstalling an old version of iSphere
before updating to the latest one. But honestly I do not always
understand the various problems reported here.

"NI1 Fragment" does not tell me anything, because iSphere does not use
fragments. Hence I assume that "NI1 Fragment" is related to a different
plug-in but not iSphere.

Actually the update dialog should exactly describe the dependency that
could not be matched.

Did you explicitly select the iSphere update site or did you select
"--All available Sites--" when trying to install the latest iSphere

update?

Thomas.

Am 18.06.2018 um 19:05 schrieb Craig Richards:

Hi All,

I recently put a copy of RDi 9.6.0.3 onto my backup machine and

installed

iSphere without problems once I used the url kindly provided by Dave:
http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/isphere/eclipse/rdi8.0/

This has successfully installed iSphere 3.4.0.r on to that machine.

I'm still running 9.6.0.1 on my main machine and it has version

3.2.3.r

of

iSphere on it.

When I tried adding the latest version on this machine via the Help |
Install New Software option (I hadn't removed the old version of

iSphere

first) I had some errors.

Early in the install process an information message comes up saying:
"Cannot Perform operation. Computing alternate solutions... "

And then it eventually gives me an "Install Remediation Page" in which

it

is complaining about "NI1 Fragment"

I'm not sure if this is because I didn't uninstall the previous

version

of

iSphere first.
Or if iSphere 3.4.0.r requires RDi 9.6.0.3
Or some other reason.

Has anyone else encountered something like this?

For now I just hit cancel to leave the old version of iSphere running

as

I

can't really afford any downtime at the moment.

thanks kindly,
Craig

On 21 February 2018 at 17:53, <dlclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 02/21/2018

12:48:54

PM:

In 9.6, I tried Help/Install New Software and put in this site:

https://

isphere.sourceforge.net

Should be this site for the automated install.

http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/isphere/eclipse/rdi8.0/

Sincerely,

Dave Clark
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