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Thanks, Edmund has informed me that I will need to start using the live
outline.
This does not work with the static outline.

Paul
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The "mechanism" is clicking on "Main Procedure" in the outline view.

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To: Edmund Reinhardt <edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx>; Rational Developer for
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Poll of users of live ILE RPG outline view

Since you asked....
Can there be a way via the outline to get to the fist executable line of
code in a source member? (I use the static outline and not the live update)
I often find I want to get back to the top of the program logic and would
like to be able to click on something in the outline to bring me there.
If this option is already available then please tell me what the mechanism
is.

Thanks,

Paul


On April 11, 2016 at 1:59 PM Edmund Reinhardt
<edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



So far the sense I am getting (from the comments) is that people have
the following requirements

i) When they edit code with numeric indicators they would like to see
- all of the uses of the same indicator whether it is reference by
number or name So for the following code dcl-f file workstn
indds(myinds); dcl-ds myinds; invokeHelp POS(1); exitNow POS(3);
end-ds; *in(01)=*off; exfmt panel; if (*in01) showHelp(invokeHelp);
end-if

We could show the following in the indicators section - all
pre-defined indicators sorted alphabetically and all aliases shown on
the line that is referencing it
- Indicators
- 01
3 - invokeHelp
6 - *IN(01)
8 - *IN01
9 - invokeHelp
-03
4 - exitNow

ii) Other people would like to consider all declarations as 1 easily
searchable list, sorted by occurrence in the source (merge together
data structures, fields, constants, indicators, maybe even files)


What I am understanding is that pre-defined indicators merit a
different section because they are provided by the compiler and can be
aliased in these ways (and are really hard to find lexically)

Is there any business case that supports them being sorted by the
source order?
Would people actually want the predefined indicators lumped in the
"All declarations list" under (ii) above, all sorted in source order?
Of course the pre-defined indicators would mostly be at the end
because they were referenced first in the Calcs.
Is there any business case that supports named indicators being lumped
in with pre-defined indicators?

Do people really want a lot of different preferences that they may
never discover and then have to figure out whether they are useful and
might only be there because of the historical evolution of the
product? (Just doesn't feel clean and easy to learn). It would be nice
if we had options that helped people accomplish certain tasks easier,
so they measurably improve productivity.

Another thing I am wondering, is there a use for an I Specs and O
Specs entry in the outline view to take people to those sections of the
code?

Again, I am listening, educate me.
Edmund




From: Paul Bailey <PaulBailey@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/04/2016 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Poll of users of live ILE RPG outline view Sent
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1) C
2) C

I'd like the indicator names given by INDDS (and maybe those BASED on
the address of *IN) data structures to also be in the indicator list,
with indicator name and related number having all usages for both. I
do *a lot* of legacy/DSPF/PRTF maintenance and any little extra help
is always appreciated.


-Paul.


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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: 08 April 2016 20:56
To: WDSC
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Poll of users of live ILE RPG outline view


Since you are the active community in support of this product, you get
to have the power to help me make design decisions.
I have received feedback on two issues about indicators and how they
used to behave differently with the static outline then they do now
with the live outline.

1) Named indicators now appear under the Indictors heading when they
used to appear under fields as just another named field with indicator
type.
People have complained and want to have only the numbered indicators
until the Indicators heading.

2) Numbered indicators used to appear in numerical order which was
easier to find, now they appear in the order that they occurred in the
source (similar to all the other declarations).

I have 3 options.
A) I can change to the original behaviour with no preferences.
B) I can add a preference, but set it to the original behaviour (so
people will see the product change to the original behaviour when this
is
released)
C) I can add a preference and set it to the current behaviour

So submit your votes to me

A vote of
1A
2A

Means named indicators will now appear under fields and numbered
indicators will appear in numeric order - no additional preferences

A vote of
1C
2C
Means the product will behave just as it does today, but there will be
2 additional preferences that will enable the old behaviour

Vote away, let your voice be heard :-)

Edmund
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