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I agree that an option is preferable but if that is not possible then changing the behaviour is best for me. I think this is also a good idea because those who favour having an updated cache can always press refresh. The current behaviour leaves those of us who don’t like the extra cache refresh have no option but to wait impatiently.

For me I find that sometimes when working on old programs (even relatively small ones) it takes forever to load because they have large numbers of files.

Even new programs can present a problem because they tend to use a lot of /COPY members.


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On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Colson, Edmund B <Barry_Colson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I like #2; give me an option to choose whether or not refresh the data.

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From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:28 AM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Outline is not using cached source?

On 12/18/2014 5:57 PM, Edmund Reinhardt wrote:

For those who care, reply and tell me if you think the outline view
should use cached (potentially) stale data on the initial load and
only get from the host if the cache doesn't have it, or the refresh button is pressed.
Email and say "CHANGE"

CHANGE.

I deeply understand the trade-off being made here and don't find it 'wrong' to hit the host for the most accurate information. I would, however, use the cache whenever possible: that's the point of having a cache.

If it were my code, I'd ponder a couple of choices:

1) On initial load, refresh the cache with all the files being referred to for the outline. Pro: Cache gets refreshed; a second load will be much faster. Con: It takes time to refresh the cache.

2) Use the (possibly stale) cache but put up a message that the cache was not checked for staleness and that F5 might be advisable. Pro: Fast load. Con: Possibly incorrect outline. Pro: User can choose how to proceed.

3) Create a preference for the Outline View that clearly indicates how to drive this behaviour. Pro: Let the user decide. Con: Another preference to code and understand. Also, a preference is global; sometimes I just don't care about the outline view and I'm OK with the fact that it's stale.

Again, I don't find the current behaviour 'wrong' - it's a trade-off and those decision points invariably disappoint someone.

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