Re: Already using WDSC 7.0 - Is it worth it to buy RDi? -- WDSCI-L

"Bug fixes. OS compatibility. Tech support."

Hey David,

Thanks for the reply. So far I've never had any real bugs or need for tech
support, and I recently upgraded to win 8.1 without any trouble so not much
need for any of that. :)

I'm wondering if there are any features that might make the upgrade
appealing, particularly anything that would make it more productive than
using wdsc.

Thanks!
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Today's Topics:

1. Error log doesn't sort (Englander, Douglas)
2. Re: Installation Manager (Matt Lavinder)
3. Re: Error log doesn't sort (Buck Calabro)
4. Re: Installation Manager (Edmund Reinhardt)
5. Installation Manager (Terry Hertel)
6. Re: Installation Manager (Buck Calabro)
7. Already using WDSC 7.0 - Is it worth it to buy RDi? (Dennis)
8. Re: Already using WDSC 7.0 - Is it worth it to buy RDi?
(David Gibbs)

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message: 1
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:23:55 -0500
from: "Englander, Douglas" <Douglas_Englander@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [WDSCI-L] Error log doesn't sort

I am currently using RDi 9.0.1, but have found this on prior versions

also:

When I compile a program, sometimes, but not every time, the Error List

View shows my 30 level messages at the bottom of the panel. Since my panels
can contain multiple pages, it APPEARS (via a quick glance) that the
program compiles, but does not because there are severity 30 level errors
at the bottom of the panel, which you have to page down to see.

Normally, the View is displayed from Highest severity to Lowest, so

glancing at the View allows me to easily see if a program compiled.

However, every so often the View "loses" the sort criteria, and the

severity 30 messages are interspersed throughout the panel. I have tried
and tried to click on the Severity column to change the sort, but it does
not change. It appears that every other column changes somewhat when I
click on it, but not the Severity column.

Is there some setting that is not correct that is causing this? This

behavior can be inconsistent day to day.

Thank you,

Doug

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message: 2
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:02:29 -0400
from: Matt Lavinder <mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

On 7/29/2014 12:48 PM, Buck Calabro wrote:

I just tried it with IM 1.7.2. It did some searching for about 2
minutes and then told me there's a new version of IM. No surprise
there. So I let IM update itself. Now, at 1.7.3, I tried 'Update'
again. It did some searching and after a couple of minutes came up to
the page where I could choose which package group to update. I chose
SDP 9.1 and it found 2 Java updates, which I Let it install.

OK, I verified I am at 1.7.2 so I need to update Installation Manager
but it is not finding the update. Anyone have a suggestion? Is there a
way to manually update Installation Manager?

It still sits there and never finds an update. I guess if no one has a
suggestion I'll leave it running all night and see if it ever finds
anything.

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message: 3
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:21:41 -0400
from: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Error log doesn't sort

On 7/29/2014 1:23 PM, Englander, Douglas wrote:

I am currently using RDi 9.0.1, but have found this on prior versions

also:

When I compile a program, sometimes, but not every time,

I think that the first step in every case of inconsistent behaviour is
to create a new workspace and try it again.

the Error List View shows my 30 level messages at the bottom of the

panel. Since my panels can contain multiple pages,

Generally, I let RDi filter out the informational messages so I don't
have to page through them.

it APPEARS (via a quick glance) that the program compiles, but does not

because there are severity 30 level errors at the bottom of the panel,
which you have to page down to see.

Normally, the View is displayed from Highest severity to Lowest, so

glancing at the View allows me to easily see if a program compiled.

However, every so often the View "loses" the sort criteria, and the

Clicking on the Severity column sorts for me on 9.1 and my recollection
is that it always sorted, going back at least to 7.0.0.8.

Is there some setting that is not correct that is causing this? This

behavior can be inconsistent day to day.

Are you seeing a difference based on the source member type? RPGLE vs
RPG38 vs CLP?
--buck

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message: 4
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:22:15 -0400
from: Edmund Reinhardt <edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

If you want Installation Manager to update itself - go to File->
Preferences->Updates and check "Search for Installation Manager updates"

Regards,

Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
Technical Architect for Rational Developer for i

Phone: 1-905-413-3125 | Home: 1-905-854-6195

IBM

E-mail: edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx
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From: Matt Lavinder <mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 29/07/2014 02:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

On 7/29/2014 12:48 PM, Buck Calabro wrote:

I just tried it with IM 1.7.2. It did some searching for about 2
minutes and then told me there's a new version of IM. No surprise
there. So I let IM update itself. Now, at 1.7.3, I tried 'Update'
again. It did some searching and after a couple of minutes came up to
the page where I could choose which package group to update. I chose
SDP 9.1 and it found 2 Java updates, which I Let it install.

OK, I verified I am at 1.7.2 so I need to update Installation Manager
but it is not finding the update. Anyone have a suggestion? Is there a
way to manually update Installation Manager?

It still sits there and never finds an update. I guess if no one has a
suggestion I'll leave it running all night and see if it ever finds
anything.

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message: 5
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:32:15 -0500
from: Terry Hertel <T.Hertel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

I ran Installation Manager last week and it came up with an update: IBM

SDK for Node.js 1.1.0.4 for Cordova tools ........ Is this really for RPG
and COBOL tools?

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message: 1
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:06:37 -0400
from: Matt Lavinder <mlavinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

I thought I would open IBM Installation Manager to see if a patch has
been released for RDi 9.1. After asking for my secure storage password,
it just sits at "Check repository
https://www.ibm.com/software/repositorymanager/entitled...";. I never
get a message saying that no updates are available. It seems stuck.

Anyone experienced this and have a fix? If I enter a bad password for
the secure storage it tells me. It may have the wrong password stored
for my IBM account. Would it tell me if those stored credentials were
wrong?

Can you uninstall IBM Installation Manager without breaking RDi? I'd
hate to have to uninstall and re-install EVERYTHING just to fix
Installation Manager.

--
Matt

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message: 2
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:48:53 -0400
from: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

On 7/29/2014 10:06 AM, Matt Lavinder wrote:

I thought I would open IBM Installation Manager to see if a patch has
been released for RDi 9.1. After asking for my secure storage password,
it just sits at "Check repository
https://www.ibm.com/software/repositorymanager/entitled...";. I never
get a message saying that no updates are available. It seems stuck.

Anyone experienced this and have a fix? If I enter a bad password for
the secure storage it tells me. It may have the wrong password stored
for my IBM account. Would it tell me if those stored credentials were
wrong?

I just tried it with IM 1.7.2. It did some searching for about 2
minutes and then told me there's a new version of IM. No surprise
there. So I let IM update itself. Now, at 1.7.3, I tried 'Update'
again. It did some searching and after a couple of minutes came up to
the page where I could choose which package group to update. I chose
SDP 9.1 and it found 2 Java updates, which I Let it install.

Can you uninstall IBM Installation Manager without breaking RDi? I'd
hate to have to uninstall and re-install EVERYTHING just to fix
Installation Manager.

I've gone to the IM web page and installed the (at the time) latest
version of IM before starting to install RDi, but I can't say I've ever
uninstalled IM. I assume that you'd have to manually configure the
various repositories...
--buck

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message: 6
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:09:24 -0400
from: Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Installation Manager

On 7/29/2014 2:32 PM, Terry Hertel wrote:

I ran Installation Manager last week and it came up with an update: IBM

SDK for Node.js 1.1.0.4 for Cordova tools ........ Is this really for RPG
and COBOL tools?

Well, sort of. RDi is based on Eclipse, and it comes packaged with
IBM's Java runtime. These fixes apply to that. There are a pair of
security fixes relating to this:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21679181&myns=swgrat&mynp=OCSSPSQF&mynp=OCSS4QVT&mynp=OCSSAE4W&mync=E

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21679197&myns=swgrat&mynp=OCSSPSQF&mynp=OCSS4QVT&mynp=OCSSAE4W&mync=E

Patching the SDK fixes Java security vulnerabilities in RDi.
--buck

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message: 7
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:07:24 -0700
from: Dennis <dennis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [WDSCI-L] Already using WDSC 7.0 - Is it worth it to buy RDi?

I'm wondering if it's worth the 1k price tag to upgrade. Is there anything
in RDi I can't live without? :)

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message: 8
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:10:09 -0500
from: David Gibbs <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Already using WDSC 7.0 - Is it worth it to buy
RDi?

On 7/29/2014 4:07 PM, Dennis wrote:

I'm wondering if it's worth the 1k price tag to upgrade. Is there
anything in RDi I can't live without? :)

Bug fixes. OS compatibility. Tech support.

Heck, even vendor support. I developed the Implementer plug-in for RDi

and we've depreciated the WDSC 7 & RDi 7.1 versions of the plug-in.
Enhancements & new features will only be put in the plug-in version that's
supported in RDi 7.5 & higher.

david