In my original "instructions" for cloning a perspective, I recommended that you clone the Java perspective. I recommended that because your "Remote Systems Explorer" perspective was already FUBARred. An eclipse perspective is just a collection of views (with their positions/statuses) and menu/toolbar options - You should be able to clone any perspective and change the various displayed views to get the information that you want in your day-to-day working. The Java perspective is one of the perspectives that has the Outline, Editor and some other RSE views already displayed prominently which then saves you having to look for them.
You can just zip the .metadata folder if you like (a bit of simple copy&replace will be required to restore the workspace), but I personally zip the root workspace directory instead because I can just restore the whole folder to a different name and that is then a new workspace. A zip of my workspace is about 5 MB but that depends on the number of cached files in the RemoteSystemsTempFiles location as you could probably guess.
Additionally, now you've got your workspace and perspective just how you want it, you want to "Save perspective as..." on your current perspective and save it as "RSE Backup" or something before you make a zipped backup of the workspace. It gives you a simple way of restoring to your default perspective if things go wrong again and if things are still really messed up after cloning your backup perspective (because of a workspace issue rather than a perspective issue) you can then fall back to the zipped workspace you made.
I'm not an expert in eclipse and its nuances, but all of the above (and below) has worked for me a few times in the past. If anyone has more information that enhances or contradicts what I've said then please let me know.
-Paul.
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson
Sent: 03 April 2014 13:40
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] create new perspective
Paul,
I cloned the perspective where the outline was already missing.
This was the original RSE perspective (in use for years ?), which had recently been updated to 9.0.1.
I have RSE up now and, thankfully, the outline has reported for duty, so I want to "save" - but I'm not sure how to do that.
I work on an employer-supplied laptop running Win 7 and keep all "my files" in one folder on drive C which I copy to a USB drive.
From your input I see additional copies of my Rational_9_0 workspace
folder is what I want. Looking at folder Rational_9_0 there are two sub
folders:
.metadata
RemoteSystemsTempFiles
I think I want to keep separate "images" of those two folders.
I think I only need one copy of RemoteSystemsTempFiles but, maybe, several copies of .metadata.
Can I get everything I need to recover from something like a "missing Outline" from .metadata ?
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Which perspective did you clone? The one where the outline was already missing, the original Remote Systems Explorer perspective that comes with RDi, or the Java perspective? (And if it wasn't your already broken perspective, did the outline show in the original perspective before you cloned it?)
To be honest, there is a fair bit of work in getting a cloned perspective showing everything where and how you want it, but I think starting fresh from a brand new workspace is even more work! As many others here have commented recently and before, I make zipped copies of the workspace folder regularly-ish and always try to leave the Remote System Explorer perspective (in all workspaces) exactly as it was when I created the workspace (and then use it for cloning new perspectives if required.)
-Paul.
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Sent: 02 April 2014 16:55
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] create new perspective
Yea, I started with Save Perspective As: My_RSE So, I'm now using My_RSE, which is a clone of the original and has the Outline formerly viewable but now in stealth mode, detectable only with Ctrl-F7.
Thanks Paul; your new WS idea is my next step.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:31 AM
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Hmmm. That is an interesting question. I can't see anyway to create a "new" perspective, only ways to copy existing perspectives.
I assume the perspective you are using is the default one that starts with RDi? "Remote System Explorer"? And this is the one you want to replace?
If you select "Close all perspectives" in the Window menu, then select "Open Perspective|Other...|Java". This will open the java perspective. If you then select "Save Perspective As..." from the Window menu, and give it a name like "RSE Editor" or something, you have created a new perspective.
You then need to close any views you are not interested in, open the views you want to use, organise the views in subgroups and positions you are happy with and then choose the "Save Perspective As..." option again (using the same name this time) to save it.
Personally, I would then use "Save Perspective As..." again to save as a different name so that I had a backup.
Then "Close all perspectives" again, before you open your recently saved perspective just to make certain everything looks clean.
Alternatively, create a brand new workspace. If the Outline view has gone missing because of damaged data (rather than you misplaced it and can't find it) then creating a new perspective may not help anyway.
-Paul.
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Subject: [WDSCI-L] create new perspective
My outline seems permanently hidden so I'm following Edmund's advice to create a new perspective.
All hints welcomed as I've yet to find much in help.
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