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You need to reframe the discussion.

Why are you happy that 75% of your staff are less productive than they could be?

Why don't you make the .Net developers use Notepad - that would be cheaper.

Etc. etc.

You need to prove that that your productivity is increased because of the tooling. Possibly even by doing a side-by-side comparison of tracking and issue alongside someone using SEU.


On 2013-10-09, at 11:33 AM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I concur!

But with less than 25% of the Developers even trying Rational Developer. It is a hard sell...

Why are over %75 Developer NOT NEEDING it? Are you NOT able to program without Rational Developer?
<sigh>

Hence, why I am trying all the time to get my fellow co-workers in another building to try it! They might like it, if they would only take some time! But, when they ran into lock-ups. They said why bother? That happened on RDP 8.5 with the memory leak. They said they might try again, if it ever gets more stable... <Big Frown> And the Debug job didn't not work on RDP 8.5. SEU is ROCK Solid, and never "blows-up"...

I should not have pushed RDP 8.5 when it first came out to my co-workers.
:(

So far, over all RDP 8.0.3 has been ROCK SOLID for me! It runs all days, and never locks up! The Debug job on RDP 8.0.3 has NEVER failed me! My only issue is that outline view does not work when I do NOT hard-code the Program name on the "PI" (Procedure Interface). That is my only issue.

After all the Microsoft Studio Dot net Developers have their Visual Studio. Which includes SQL Studio management and all Microsoft products. But, they have GUI Developer, rather than the ancient "green screens" by that old tired AS400 (Power system running IBM i). So, data is being migrated over to Microsoft SQL. Don't get me started on that! <rant rant> Shucks the C# people could use a SEU/Notepad to write code, but why would they? The same cannot be said for the "main-frame/AS400" (a.k.a. power system running IBM i).

So, if I had any pull, I would say BUY the maintenance Agreement, and keep me UP TODATE! <Joy Joy>

I rather keep my job, than have a really great "Editor"! <LOL>


-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of darren@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:45 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Technology refresh enhancements for free-form statements

From a budget perspective, it might be a good idea to sell
"Maintenance" so
you're not having to beg for each version upgrade.




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/09/2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Technology refresh enhancements for free-form
statements
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Will RDP support this forthcoming Free-Form specs? Or must you upgrade to RDI, and no backwards compatibility Again for previous releases... <frown>

I am begging for the upgrade at my company, but "budget concerns" have cropped up again...
<sadly>

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry Hertel
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:50 PM
To: 'wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Technology refresh enhancements for free-form statements

Will RDi support the forthcoming free-form control, file-declaration, data-declaration, and procedure statements when the technology refresh is released?
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