Re: Working with projects

Ken,

To keep this sort of on-topic, yes, Implementer does have a plugin, which I haven't seen yet.  Our change management team is supposed to get it for us soon.  I think there are other users here who might be able to comment on its effectiveness.


As for that source pointer problem, no, they haven't fixed it.  We have Hawkeye Pathfinder, so we rarely use DSPPGM to locate production source.  Besides, our conventions are clear and very strict, so it takes some work to screw it up.  Of course, we have 75+ developers, so it does happen from time to time.


I've used Turnover at 2 previous companies.  My feeling about how they compare is that Turnover is a premium package, sort of at the Infiniti level if you will, whereas Implementer is much more utilitarian, kind of a Kia level product.

 
Dave Shaw
Mohawk Industries


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From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Working with projects


Dave,

I happen to use the Change Management software called "Turnover", which has a great plug-in for RDP/RDi.

I have used Implement previously, not a bad package. My only real complain it that it messed up the Source pointers on the object. (DSPPGM) It would say that the object was created from a source-file in temporary Implement library that was deleted...

Sample:
                                                                     
Object    Type    Library    Attr    Library    Source    Member 
MCABBARL  *PGM    PRODOBJ    RPGLE  IMAGI1S    QRPGLESRC  MCABBARL

This object was created back in 2004, when we were using Implementer. Note the Source-Library of "IMAGI1S", which was a work-library used by Implementer. It was one reason why we switched to Turnover, among other reasons.

So, two questions on Implementer:
1.) Does it have a plug-in for RDP/RDI?
2.) Have they ever fixed their Source Pointer Problem?

Note, it has been about 7-years since I have used Implementer, but curious...

Of course, I am using Turnover, which does NOT have those two issues. Otherwise, it seemed like a very good package over all. :)that decision was made about 7-years ago at my employer.

Thanks for any insight you might share!