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Michael,

I'm actually on board with Ken on this.

For example, I'm now in the process of going to my workspace temp source folder to bring back changes that I implemented today that got overwritten by cached source. It really sucks, and if I didn't catch this, not only does it suck, but it's damaging to the department and company's reputation (in this case it was a program for a client).

That level of a bug can cause a lot of stress. And when that happens, how do you convince someone happy with SEU to switch?

-Kurt

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Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 12:10 PM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Ken,

I've let this one simmer for a while. My experience has run counter to yours. I upgraded about a 45 days ago. I've found 8.5 to be very reliable and quite snappy. I've yet to experience a crash. Now admittedly, I upgraded from WDSc (version 7.0).

The only thing I can substantiate is the properties view in the screen designer--there are times when it comes up blank and I have to click around some to get it properly populated. But overall I am one *VERY* happy camper. As to the debugger using out-dated cached source, that's something I've periodically seen since version 6 or so. Thus far, I haven't had the problem in 8.5.

I think the usual disclaimer applies YMMV (your mileage may vary)--and obviously does. There must be something about the environment. Some of our developers here have had a lot of challenges, while others have been rather like me. Very few problems and very happy with the tool.

Michael Quigley

wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 09/27/2012 10:06:38 AM:
----- Message from Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on Thu, 27 Sep
2012 11:06:10 +0000 -----

To:

"'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries'" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject:

Re: [WDSCI-L] WARNING RDP 8.5 is BUGGY!!

Hi,

I tried RDP 8.5, and it was "buggy"...

I created a BRAND-NEW Workspace, when I tried RDP 8.5

I tried to update a DDS Screen file, and it didn't update the source.
Very strange. When I clicked on a field in the screen designer. The
Properties window would not auto-fresh. I had to click on other tabs
to force an update.

While debugging programs, my RDP 8.5 crashed way too often! It would
lock-up for over 5-10 minutes, where I had to manually kill it.

And to top it off, when opening up the source, it open an old CACHE
first of the source, that did NOT include recent changes. I NEVER had
WDSC/RDI/RDP do that to me before! That was UNACCEPTABLE! I chase my
tail, think we had SERIOUS problems, only to discover that RDP 8.5 had
screwed up!!!

Anyway, I ended up rolling back RDP 8.0.3, where I do NOT run into any
of the above issues.

I have been developing in RPG for over 20-years. And I had some
"SEU-Fossils" state to me, we do NOT have those problems with "SEU".
:(

For now, RDP 8.0.3 is working great. All other previous updates, I
seemed to always notice better performance and features. Not the case
with this release.

By the way, I use RDP 8.5 for over 30-days, before rolling back to
version RDP 8.0.3

So... Be very carefully on this Version. No wonder why IBM did make it
an auto upgrade, it is too buggy!


-Ken Killian-
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